Failure to award Free Throws - Correctable When?

[BigJoe]

Thank you Juulie,

wasn't happy with my response when I posted it. Thanks to you and Nevada for the clarifications. Just moved to Arizona for the winter. First scrimmages this week. I am being evaluated to see if I am capable to officiate higher than sixth grade! Need some luck.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by BigJoe

Thank you Juulie,

wasn't happy with my response when I posted it. Thanks to you and Nevada for the clarifications. Just moved to Arizona for the winter. First scrimmages this week. I am being evaluated to see if I am capable to officiate higher than sixth grade! Need some luck.

Wow, you're in an area where luck counts? Around here it's either skill or politics...

[refnrev]

I could swear that I read the other night that they could be awarded at any time. But I often fall asleep reading the rules book at night and might have dreamt it. I really did take the pills and the voices are quiet. I did, I did, I really really did!

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by refnrev

I could swear that I read the other night that they could be awarded at any time. But I often fall asleep reading the rules book at night and might have dreamt it. I really did take the pills and the voices are quiet. I did, I did, I really really did!

You're lucky you have meds that quiet the voices. I've got about five that just never stop. I've just had to learn which ones to listen to (and when), and which to ignore.

[Ed Maeder]

Just remember, there are no do-overs in basketball. I seem to remember a post I made some time back where a whole lot of people felt a do over was in order. Does 2.8 seconds on the clock bring any memories back to anyone.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Ed Maeder

Just remember, there are no do-overs in basketball. I seem to remember a post I made some time back where a whole lot of people felt a do over was in order. Does 2.8 seconds on the clock bring any memories back to anyone.

In my opinion, "a whole lot of people" were incorrect.
I don't care how much or how little time is left, I'm not going with a do-over in NFHS basketball.

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by Ed Maeder

Just remember, there are no do-overs in basketball. I seem to remember a post I made some time back where a whole lot of people felt a do over was in order. Does 2.8 seconds on the clock bring any memories back to anyone.

I beg to differ with this statement. Refer to my rather long post about player shooting at wrong basket and then read casebook rule 10 about wrong team making a throw in. If it's accidental, you cacel the score and put time back on, and give ball to correct team for do-over. (I'll never get that one wrong again ).

Mregor

[Ed Maeder]

Your not differing with me. I know situations that common sense dictates do overs. You must have missed my very very long post that I ended up closing due to so many people disagreeing.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Mregor

I beg to differ with this statement. Refer to my rather long post about player shooting at wrong basket and then read casebook rule 10 about wrong team making a throw in. If it's accidental, you cacel the score and put time back on, and give ball to correct team for do-over. (I'll never get that one wrong again ).

Mregor

You need to be extra careful how you refer to this situation, if you mean case 10.1.8.

That's doesn't refer to just any old wrong team making a throw in. If you give the ball to the wrong team for a throw-in, and that throw-in is completed, and the game goes on, it's tough.

Case 10.1.8 is ONLY after a made basket when the scoring team quickly throws the ball in and scores. If it seems to have been an accident, you do as you suggest, but if not you do all those things and assess a T.

That never applies in any other wrong-team-throw-in.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Mregor

I beg to differ with this statement. Refer to my rather long post about player shooting at wrong basket and then read casebook rule 10 about wrong team making a throw in. If it's accidental, you cacel the score and put time back on, and give ball to correct team for do-over. (I'll never get that one wrong again ).

Mregor

That's still not a do-over. You aren't giving the ball back to the same team again for the throw-in, right? You are awarding it to the opponent.

A do-over is when you reset everything and line everyone back up the same way and play it again under the same conditions as before.

This time you are going to have a player in the other color jersey standing next to the official who administering the throw-in.