The Superintendent Husband

[johnnyrao]

Originally Posted by deecee

**part of game management is not stopping the game in instances like this. next time down the court if the assistant is still standing just mention to him (not the head coach) "coach are you aware that only the head coach can stand during the game"

I have to disagree with this. I have always been told that you always address the head coach. The head coach is responsible for his bench so I make it a practice to address any bench issues with the head coach.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You said he was "coaching" - you didn't say anything about him yelling. And even if he was, if all you were going to do is warn him, you should warn him without stopping play.

Smitty, I understand what you are saying. Without regards, if he was coaching or not he is not allowed to be up off the bench period.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Smitty, I understand what you are saying. Without regards, if he was coaching or not he is not allowed to be up off the bench period.

Sounds to me like you just needed to assert your authority and were looking for a solution to that problem. If you choose to look at all rules as black and white, you are likely to achieve your goal of asserting your authority often.

Following your logic, why did you not T him up right then and there? A rule's a rule, after all...

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Smitty, I understand what you are saying. Without regards, if he was coaching or not he is not allowed to be up off the bench period.

But it makes a big difference in the best way to handle it.

If the worst thing the assistant did was stand up to coach a player, address it at a naturaly stopping point....do not stop the game to deal with it...usually through the head coach. In fact, if the asst. coach merely stands up for 2-3 seconds and say a couple words to a player then sits, I'm likely to not even do anything.

If, however, the assistant was on you about a call, either let it go until the next dead ball and discuss it with the head coach or blow the whistle and T him. Don't blow the whistle just to warn the assistant.

[Back In The Saddle]

Stopping the game has already been addressed, so let me just throw out a potentially even more courteous suggestion. When you get that opportunity to address the problem with the head coach, don't give him a directive, involve him in solving your problem.

"Coach, I need your help. I can't have assistants up off the bench during play. Can you help me with that, please?"

As for the fact that the asst. is the super's hubby, isn't it really just too sad that even (self)important people have to follow the rules?

But in discussing it with the AD, who obviously feels some amount of pressure from his boss' boss, try to get the AD on your side: "I'm sorry it had to come to that, but we both know he can't be up like that. He's putting us both in a tough spot." Of course, not stopping the game, which has the unwanted effect of singling him out for unwanted attention, should help too.

No solution works every time or for every official. But if you can bring the coach or AD over to your side, form a little two person team to solve your collective problem, or at least get them to feel that it's yours and his collective problem even if you can't fix it, that person is more likely to respond positively than if it's mano a mano.

Just my $0.02

[mick]

Originally Posted by Smitty

You said he was "coaching" - you didn't say anything about him yelling. And even if he was, if all you were going to do is warn him, you should warn him without stopping play.

I was trail, opposite.
Last night's V assistant (head JV coach) took an extended walk [about a minute], to the endline (that's where the water jug was) on his way down he was coaching, then stopped near the jug coaching. Partner called a foul, I switched and reminded the assistant that this was a close game and that I didn't want to see it get ugly cuz he was off the bench. He knowingly smiled and said "Okay".

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by mick

I was trail, opposite.
Last night's V assistant (head JV coach) took an extended walk [about a minute], to the endline (that's where the water jug was) on his way down he was coaching, then stopped near the jug coaching. Partner called a foul, I switched and reminded the assistant that this was a close game and that I didn't want to see it get ugly cuz he was off the bench. He knowingly smiled and said "Okay".

That's a perfect example of what the right thing to do is. No need to stop a play and make a big scene out of it just for a warning. Everyone wins.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by truerookie

8th grade boys consolation game. 2nd quarter, I am trail table side. The assistant coach is up off the bench coaching at about this time before I could say coach have a seat. (being couteous) not whacking him!! His team steals the ball. So, I hit the whistle to stop play. I informed the head coach that his assistant needs to remain seated on the bench while the clock is running or its going to cost him the privilege of using the coaching box. We play on no problem the rest of the game.

After the game, it gets interesting.


AD: what happened with the Superintendent husband?
ME: who is that?
AD: the coach, you told he could not be up off the bench.
ME: I was being couteous by informing the head coach that his assistant could not be off the bench coaching.
AD: That was the Superintendent's husband she is upset that you told her husband to take a seat.
ME: I was being courteous it could have cost them a T. I elect not to issue one. Hindsight being 20/20, I would have been better off whacking him!!


Anyone would have handle it differently?

Almost everyone has drilled him for stopping the game for the warning (and it is all valid) but what about the AD after the game questions him because it was the Super's husband. I don't care if it was the Bill Clinton, if the AD is going to come at me after the game with this bullsh*t I would do myself a favor and not work there again.

We had the same thing a couple of years ago where our mayor coached his son's 7th grade team, he didn't bother me I lived in the county!

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by truerookie

AD: what happened with the Superintendent husband?
ME: who is that?
AD: the coach, you told he could not be up off the bench.
ME: I was being couteous by informing the head coach that his assistant could not be off the bench coaching.
AD: That was the Superintendent's husband she is upset that you told her husband to take a seat.
ME: I was being courteous it could have cost them a T. I elect not to issue one. Hindsight being 20/20, I would have been better off whacking him!!


Anyone would have handle it differently?

Yes.

AD: what happened with the Superintendent husband?
ME: who is that?
AD: the coach, you told he could not be up off the bench.
ME: Right...and?
AD: That was the Superintendent's husband she is upset that you told her husband to take a seat.
ME: She'll get over it. Where's my check?