NFHS 2006 Part 1 TEST

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

You are probably right on that also, are you pressing your Nike sweatsuit for your next game?

Actually I wear suits and very nice slacks (when working varsity night games). Most of the time I do not wear a tie, but I will wear polo style shirts with an association name on it or something related to officiating or basketball officiating on it. If I ever wear jeans (which is almost never), I do so when all my other pants are at the cleaners. I can tell you I am largely the best dressed official around. Now those were the standards I came up with and were taught, but I do not challenge anyone's professionalism because I do something different or have a different standard.

Peace

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Actually I wear suits and very nice slacks (when working varsity night games). Most of the time I do not wear a tie, but I will wear polo style shirts with an association name on it or something related to officiating or basketball officiating on it. If I ever wear jeans (which is almost never), I do so when all my other pants are at the cleaners. I can tell you I am largely the best dressed official around. Now those were the standards I came up with and were taught, but I do not challenge anyone's professionalism because I do something different or have a different standard.

Peace

Thanks, I hope you knew the Nike Sweatsuit shot was not serious.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

Thanks, I hope you knew the Nike Sweatsuit shot was not serious.

I did not take it seriously at all. I just wanted you to know that all standards do not apply when you think they should.

Peace

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I did not take it seriously at all. I just wanted you to know that all standards do not apply when you think they should.

Peace

They apply in the world "I" live in, and that is the only world I am concerned with.

[tomegun]

Uh...(with raised hand) when did professionalism - other than how you carry yourself during a game - and ethics become part of officiating? This is pretty entertaining actually.
It seems like no credit was given for those who don't take this test as a closed book exam. Also, credit wasn't given to those who don't take the test at all. Finally, credit wasn't given for those who are too lazy to do the test. I got the test early and finished it without problem so I don't care one way or the other.
Yes, I can see where ethics and professionalism should apply to the test and I agree 100%. However, it is laughable to apply those standards to one part of officiating when they are not applied across the board.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Uh...(with raised hand) when did professionalism - other than how you carry yourself during a game - and ethics become part of officiating? This is pretty entertaining actually.
It seems like no credit was given for those who don't take this test as a closed book exam. Also, credit wasn't given to those who don't take the test at all. Finally, credit wasn't given for those who are too lazy to do the test. I got the test early and finished it without problem so I don't care one way or the other.
Yes, I can see where ethics and professionalism should apply to the test and I agree 100%. However, it is laughable to apply those standards to one part of officiating when they are not applied across the board.

I completely agree.

Peace

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Uh...(with raised hand) when did professionalism - other than how you carry yourself during a game - and ethics become part of officiating? This is pretty entertaining actually.
It seems like no credit was given for those who don't take this test as a closed book exam. Also, credit wasn't given to those who don't take the test at all. Finally, credit wasn't given for those who are too lazy to do the test. I got the test early and finished it without problem so I don't care one way or the other.
Yes, I can see where ethics and professionalism should apply to the test and I agree 100%. However, it is laughable to apply those standards to one part of officiating when they are not applied across the board.

Uhmmm, I am confused (yes, it happens all the time)...since when have ethics and professionalism NOT been an expected part of officiating?? Tomegun, could you explain what you mean here?

[tomegun]

I mean it is expected of us on the court, but that is where that expectation ends.

[Ref_ Fred]

Guys why does it matter, It's open book this year so why would anyone want it in advance? Just read the book!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Ref_ Fred

Guys why does it matter, It's open book this year so why would anyone want it in advance? Just read the book!

Oh, is it open book in all 50 states, Fred?

Just wondering....

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Oh, is it open book in all 50 states, Fred?

Yes or no?

Who cares what all 50 states do. All 50 states do not take the Part 1 Exam at all. It is not the job of everyone to worry about that. If the people in a particular state violate their rules, then have their state take care of them. Not all rules apply to all states. If they did, then prostitution would not be legal in a little part of Nevada. I thought guys like you would be for State's rights.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Who cares what all 50 states do. All 50 states do not take the Part 1 Exam at all. It is not the job of everyone to worry about that. If the people in a particular state violate their rules, then have their state take care of them. Not all rules apply to all states. If they did, then prostitution would not be legal in a little part of Nevada. I thought guys like you would be for State's rights.

If you are going to use this as an example then you need to get your facts right. Prostitution is legal in a BIG part of Nevada. It is done on a county by county basis. The only two counties in which it is illegal are Clark (where Las Vegas is) and Washoe (where Reno is). So while prostitution is NOT legal where most of the population resides, it is legal in most of the state by land area (about 85% of it).

Since you are always the guy who says, "You don't know how it is in my state," I just had to take the opportunity to set you straight on how it is in MY state.

Now you may get back to your pissing contest over the exam.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If you are going to use this as an example then you need to get your facts right. Prostitution is legal in a BIG part of Nevada. It is done on a county by county basis. The only two counties in which it is illegal are Clark (where Las Vegas is) and Washoe (where Reno is). So while prostitution is NOT legal where most of the population resides, it is legal in most of the state by land area (about 85% of it).

Since you are always the guy who says, "You don't know how it is in my state," I just had to take the opportunity to set you straight on how it is in MY state.

Now you may get back to your pissing contest over the exam.

Well I can talk as confidently about this as you do when it comes to issues in my state. Criminal laws are public record. State interpretation of basketball rules usually are not.

BTW, we stopped having this conversation long time ago. I figured you would go trolling around for a debate on something that is rather trivial. I guess you did not disappoint.

Peace

[Junker]

Boy, you've gotta love any thread that moves from tests, to sweatsuits, and finally to prostitution. Not that it matters to anyone but me, but I don't see asking for the questions and answers is unethical, it's what you do with that information that may be considered unethical. In my area, I usually work on the test alone for a day or two, then get toghether with some buddies, watch some college football, have a beverage or two, and haggle over the answers we weren't sure about. Are we helping each other with answers? Heck yes, but the discussions that get us to arrive at those answers make us better officials. The way our state uses the part I exam, I don't see a problem with exchanging questions and answers as long as the person uses them correctly in conjunction with their own thoughts. An official that just goes down and fills in someone else's answers will never amount to much of an official if you ask me.