free throw shots

[just98]

One of the girls on my basketball team has a unique free throw warm up. when she is standing on the line she does almost a fake shot. she holds the ball at her chest and does a follow through check (not sure how else to describe it). she lets the ball roll off her hand and lets it hit the court picks it up and proceedes to shoot a free throw. is that legal. i guess what we are wondering is there any rules on what you can and can not do on the free throw line.

i dont know if that makes any sense to you, im not really sure how to describe it. if you get a chance could you let me know whats legal while on the line.

[blindmanwalking]

I'd have her change it. Sounds like it could be mistaken as a fake. Without seeing it, it's hard to know for sure.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by just98

One of the girls on my basketball team has a unique free throw warm up. when she is standing on the line she does almost a fake shot. she holds the ball at her chest and does a follow through check (not sure how else to describe it). she lets the ball roll off her hand and lets it hit the court picks it up and proceedes to shoot a free throw. is that legal. i guess what we are wondering is there any rules on what you can and can not do on the free throw line.

i dont know if that makes any sense to you, im not really sure how to describe it. if you get a chance could you let me know whats legal while on the line.

You're taking your chances.....

NFHS rule 9-1-4---"The free thrower shall not fake a try..."

If the official deems it a faked try, you've got no argument at all if a violation is called.

[RonRef]

Players are watching too much TV, take a couple and dribbles, bend your knees, and follow through. What so hard about that? Enough of all these goofy pre-free throw shows and just shot the ball.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You're taking your chances.....

True, but (iirc) there's also a case play to the effect that the defense must recognize a pre-shot routine and not have it considered to be a fake.

I agree that if the ball is raised above the head, and the wrist "flicks" forward, it's becoming dangerously close to a fake.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

True, but (iirc) there's also a case play to the effect that the defense must recognize a pre-shot routine and not have it considered to be a fake.

I agree that if the ball is raised above the head, and the wrist "flicks" forward, it's becoming dangerously close to a fake.

That's why I said that the FT shooter was taking a chance. Depending on the official, it could be ignored, warned or called.

[LarryS]

Originally Posted by RonRef

Players are watching too much TV, take a couple and dribbles, bend your knees, and follow through. What so hard about that? Enough of all these goofy pre-free throw shows and just shot the ball.

Huh...in my opinion there is nothing wrong with having a pre-shot routine. This one sounds like it could cause a problem but that doesn't mean they should all be stopped.

I know when I am golfing I try to follow the same routine before each shot type, putt...chip...tee shot. It can help the person focus and calm them down. It works the same way in other sports. Anything you can do within the rules of the game to help you stay focused is a good thing. I even know several officials you always prepare for a game in exactly the same way...down to arriving at the site, how they pack and unpack their bag, the way the get dressed, etc.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RonRef

Players are watching too much TV, take a couple and dribbles, bend your knees, and follow through. What so hard about that? Enough of all these goofy pre-free throw shows and just shot the ball.

Not sure what TV has to do with this. I have never seen a pre-shot routine anything like this on or off TV. The purpose of the routine is to get the player in some kind of rhythm. This player probably took the routine too far and does not realize they might be doing something illegal. I would teach the kid to find another routine and move on.

Peace

[RonRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Not sure what TV has to do with this. I have never seen a pre-shot routine anything like this on or off TV. The purpose of the routine is to get the player in some kind of rhythm. This player probably took the routine too far and does not realize they might be doing something illegal. I would teach the kid to find another routine and move on.

Peace

NBA players are doing all sorts of routines before they shoot FT and kids are watching and trying to copy them. That is what I meant.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RonRef

NBA players are doing all sorts of routines before they shoot FT and kids are watching and trying to copy them. That is what I meant.

Why are you so concerned with what happens on TV? I have never seen any routine that looked like a fake. Maybe you have seen this, but I have not. I could take it a step further and say I have never seen a fake on a FT either on TV or in person. The player likely came up with this routine on their own and it happens to be boarding on legality.

Peace

[Mwanr1]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why are you so concerned with what happens on TV? I have never seen any routine that looked like a fake. Maybe you have seen this, but I have not. I could take it a step further and say I have never seen a fake on a FT either on TV or in person. The player likely came up with this routine on their own and it happens to be boarding on legality.

Peace

I totally agree with you. I don't think I've once seen on TV any NBA player purposely or intentionally fake a free throw. But the weird thing is that NBA players are often charged for lane violation for some strange reasons. Shaq seems to be great at drawing "lane violations."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

I totally agree with you. I don't think I've once seen on TV any NBA player purposely or intentionally fake a free throw. But the weird thing is that NBA players are often charged for lane violation for some strange reasons. Shaq seems to be great at drawing "lane violations."

They are? I have not seen any more lane violations being called at the NBA level as any other level. I guess you must watch more NBA games than I do (which is very likely considering other than the playoffs I might not have watched a single NBA game from beginning to end).

Whether this is tried on TV or not, the player likely has never been told this might be a violation. I just do not understand what TV has to do with everything.

Peace

[Ref Daddy]

Have your Gal do her little technique before she gets the ball.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Mwanr1

I totally agree with you. I don't think I've once seen on TV any NBA player purposely or intentionally fake a free throw. But the weird thing is that NBA players are often charged for lane violation for some strange reasons. Shaq seems to be great at drawing "lane violations."

Meadowlark and Meadowlark wannabes are the only ones I have seen fake a FT.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Why are you so concerned with what happens on TV? I have never seen any routine that looked like a fake.

You've never seen the Globetrotters on TV?