what would you do

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

• 3. Explanations, if needed should be done by partner.

• 8. Don't go to coaches after your partner has given them a T. Let your partner give any explanations needed.

These two seem contradictary. And I know of quite a few folks on this forum that don't agree with #3.

I agree with #3. How can I explain something I did not see or know why my partner made a call? The best explanations come from the calling official.

Peace

[LarryS]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I agree with #3. How can I explain something I did not see or know why my partner made a call? The best explanations come from the calling official.

Peace

While the best explanation will come from the calling official, I have always been told that when a T is called on the coach...the calling official goes directly to his partner(s) and lets them know what he has and why. The partner goes to the coach and attempts to calm him down, explain the loss of the coaching box, etc.

That gives the calling official the opportunity to prepare to administer the free throws and calm down (if needed). It also tends to stop the debate from the coach. If the coach still attempts to plead his case, I can say something along the lines of "Coach, I wasn't part of the discussion so I don't know all the facts. Either way, that is in the past and we need to get on with the game. Help me out, take a seat and lets get back to the business of playing." A few weeks ago I had a partner T a really irate coach and words along those lines from me helped get him focused and be seated. It is really hard for him to argue with someone who wasn't involved.

Besides, it makes it easy for me to whack him with the second if I am standing right there.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by LarryS

While the best explanation will come from the calling official, I have always been told that when a T is called on the coach...the calling official goes directly to his partner(s) and lets them know what he has and why. The partner goes to the coach and attempts to calm him down, explain the loss of the coaching box, etc.

I have been taught that as well, but that does not make it right. I had a very well respected D1 official across the country tell me (and others in a camp) that it is not anyone's job to calm down a coach. It is the coach and his assistants that need to get a clue. That does not mean you might not be around, but who can you give an explanation you did not see or hear what was said that warranted the T?

Originally Posted by LarryS

That gives the calling official the opportunity to prepare to administer the free throws and calm down (if needed). It also tends to stop the debate from the coach. If the coach still attempts to plead his case, I can say something along the lines of "Coach, I wasn't part of the discussion so I don't know all the facts. Either way, that is in the past and we need to get on with the game. Help me out, take a seat and lets get back to the business of playing." A few weeks ago I had a partner T a really irate coach and words along those lines from me helped get him focused and be seated. It is really hard for him to argue with someone who wasn't involved.

Well it depends on the type of T. Not all coaches are irate or out of control. Many know exactly why they got T'd up or why their player got T'd up and they shut up. Also if a player was T'd, I want to be the person to give an explanation on my call. Also it is not like the next foul I will not be in front of the coach anyway. I only think you should go away from a coach to let them hang themselves. So if the coach goes out after the official, the second T is much easier in my opinion.

Peace

[LarryS]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well it depends on the type of T. Not all coaches are irate or out of control. Many know exactly why they got T'd up or why their player got T'd up and they shut up. Also if a player was T'd, I want to be the person to give an explanation on my call. Also it is not like the next foul I will not be in front of the coach anyway. I only think you should go away from a coach to let them hang themselves. So if the coach goes out after the official, the second T is much easier in my opinion.

Peace

Well then...if the coach knows "exactly why they got T'd" then they don't need an explaination

And do offense to the D1 officials out there...but if the guy that gives me games thinks I should go to the coach...I'm going to the coach. That's just me...feel free to do as you wish (like I have control over that anyway).

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by LarryS

Well then...if the coach knows "exactly why they got T'd" then they don't need an explaination

And do offense to the D1 officials out there...but if the guy that gives me games thinks I should go to the coach...I'm going to the coach. That's just me...feel free to do as you wish (like I have control over that anyway).

That is a very good point. The problem is we all do not work for the same people or come from the same background. I read this philosophy all the time on this site, but I have never been told what to do as a requirement by any assignment chairman I have worked for. In many cases we are assigned because of our good judgment that we have displayed in the past and I do not feel I need to explain anything to someone who has lost control. If a coach got T'd, I trust my partner they had a good reason for pulling the trigger. Also I do not believe in the "you cannot give the second T" BS either. If a coach goes nuts on me in a way I have not choice, then he is going to get stuck twice. I can only think of one time in my career that even happen in such a short period of time. Bottom line if you know how to read people, handle conflict and use good judgment likely when you give a T you will not have to give another. I do not need to get away from a coach just because he is an @sshole.

Peace