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Gentlemen, I think Dan just answered your question (at least the way NCAA expects you to do so). |
What about a neutral court game, like a tournament?
There is no home management, or the home management may not be from one of the teams competing. Just for kicks, assume that not only something like this happens, but also it is the NCAA Div I Men's Championship game. :D That would rank right up there with the parachute jumper falling in on Bowe v Lewis (? i think) in the middle of a round. |
Remember, however... in this situation, I clearly stated that the person involved had nothing to do with either team. This might not be so clear in a real game situation, but lets say it is an overexuberant 12 year old who knows the gym will be open after the game, and just jumps the gun on throwing the ball out on the court to get ready to play. Penalizing either team with a T would be unfair to that team, as the person didn't act for or against either - it was just a bad timing and aim issue.
I like the 30 second time reset, with overtime being my second favorite. But the overtime might be a better sell... I think you'd have trouble with getting the coaches to be happy with the 30 second thing. JMHO. I'm glad to see it is a situation that generated some conversation! |
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The ball is live on a free throw as soon as the FT shooter gets it. You can't score with a dead ball. That's a basketball basic. |
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Now you can go climb up your tree & really have a good time. :p |
Similar Play, Please Respond This Time
This play really happened a few months ago. I have discussed it with several officials and cannot seem to get a clear intepretation. I posted it on this Forum a few months ago, but it didn't seem to generate a lot of interest, so I'll try again:
NFHS Rules. High school varsity game. Small, crowded gymnasium. Not much room outside the sidelines. Point guard A1 passes to wing A2, who, unfortunately was making a V-cut toward the basket. I am the trail official and I know for sure that the ball will definitely go out of bounds on the sideline on the opposite side of the floor from me. My partner is the lead official and it's his sideline to cover. At that second, a fan, holding a hot dog from the concession stand, while trying to get back to his seat, while totally inbounds, both feet, on the playing surface, is struck by the ball which keeps it from going out of bounds. Player A2 comes back from his V-cut to pick up the loose ball and play continues. My partner and I were both dumb-founded, and allowed the play to continue with no whistle. No coaches complained. No parents complained. Is there a call here? Is the fan treated like an offical on the court, as part of the floor? If a coach or substitute had been struck by a ball under the same circumstances, we could have called a technical foul for the coach being out of the coaching box or for a sixth player being on the floor. Please cite an NFHS rule or case book reference. I am also willing to accept NCAA, FIBA, NBA, or WNBA citations. Help. |
I don't know how my name got dragged into M&M's tree. The real question is what would happen if M&M was having a good time up in his tree and a 12-year old kid threw a basketball at him to try to get him down.
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Note that I certainly can't fault you for letting the play continue. That play certainly rates a "whatinthehell?". :) |
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Chuck, you can go ahead and get in the tree. I guess I'm done with it for now. Can I give you a hand? :eek: |
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