Why would the other free throws not be attempted? Obviously the player is still entitled to the next 2 free throws. I understand that they can not have any impact on <b>this</B> game, but what about points for and against? I have played in several competitions where the final placings for finals have come down to who beat who, and by how much.

Can someone please explain this to a feeble referee?

A league may use that as a tie breaker, but by rule once the outcome is no longer in doubt, all action stops, game over.

League rules really cannot supercede the rule book. Only the state associations and the NCAA can.

NCAA & NF rules agree that FT's are *not* attempted that have no bearing on the game. Play: A up by 3 pts. A1
fouls B1 on a 2 point shot as the horn sounds. No free
throws are attempted because B cannot win. Game over.
Points for & against have no bearing regardless of
tie-breaker procedure.

Brian,

I agree when it comes to high school or CCA ball.

But, I occasionally work an adult Recreation league that goes Fed rules with jewelry allowed and various and sundry uniform incongruencies.

mick

Sorry Mick I was referring to "real" play and not "summer" ball.

When it comes to summer junk just about anything goes and many rules seem to be made up as you go.

Since the original questions were "case book" type examples, I was pretending this was the middle of January.

I resent that.
 

Our junk ball is in the winter,... I was pretending this was the "middle of January", too. ;)
mick

Fair enough
 

OK fair enough, I can see the merit of the system where free throws that can't affect the outcome of a game are not attempted.

Having said that (and again I am a FIBA referee - so my perspective may be different to so other people here) isn't it possible that say Team A is up by 3, fouls B1 on a n attempt on the buzzer resulting in 2 free throws. NCAA rules would not have the player shoot these free throws, so Team A wins by 3.

Now for arguements sake on of the following scenarios occurs:

1. As game ends, Coach A goes of his head and gets a T.

2. Found to be an error on the scorsheet, and Team A was only up by 2 (or 1).

How would you handle this, accoring to NCAA rules? Do you bring the players out of locker rooms to shoot the free throws?

Just curious....

Re: Fair enough
 

FTs are not attempted <B>unless they would effect the outcome of the game.</B> In these situations, they would be attempted because they could effect the outcome..

You wouldn't bring the players out of the locker room, because once the officials approved the final score, the game was over.

Of course, if the T were issued before the officials hit the showers, the shots would be attempted.

As long as the officials have not left the visual confines of the arena, you can most certainly bring players back onto the floor to attempt game deciding FTs.

Basically this would become what we would call a cluster. Thankfully, unless a coach walked off the floor, I cannot think of the players being the locker room post game before the officials. If it happened, you would pul them from the locker room (remember that Patriots-Dolphins game last year where they took the players back on the field like a 1/2 after the game "ended"...)

If your sitch happened:
You would shoot the two foul shots.
Then the two T's.
Pray that you do not go into OT.
Run like the wind.

Personaly, unless I was next to the bench when the horn goes off, I am not sticking around long enough to let the coach catch up to me and earn a T. I consider this preventive officiating in some cases and protecting the coach from himself in others.

I was referring to the original scenario, in which the score had been approved. Of course, until the score is approved, you can call the team back from the airport gate as far as the rules are concerned.