NBA Refs miss 5% of calls - David Stern

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Stripes33

I don't doubt the ability of these offcials but until they stop catering to the superstars and call things as they happen it will never improve. Giving veterans or stars extra steps or overlooking fouls is no way improve there image. I will give them credit for finally starting to call the fouls on Shaq that should have been called since he came into the league. They need to ignore the who the players are and concentrate more on the game.

Yeah, the superstars get all the calls. That's why Kobe Bryant was ejected last night with less than 4 minutes to play with the game very much in doubt. (PLEASE NOTE THE SARCASM.)

Traveling and fouls are called differently in the NBA than it is in college. It amkes no difference if the player is. I see rookies get away with a HS travel just like I see veteran role players get away with it. Fouls are based on a different philosophy than we call the HS game. IOW, I don't see the favoritism that so many "fanboys" like stripes33 see.

[Stripes33]

I don't know what a fanboy is but I'm not the only person who thinks this way. That's why the viewership for NBA games has gone down!

[sleebo]

"I'm wondering (only slightly, mind you) what the approved NFHS signal would be for a "testicle foul". Yuck..."

In reply to this, I believe the appropriate mechanic was perfectly demonstrated in the movie Major League II as the player sauntered towards first base and showed Cerrano that he had "no marbles"...

[sleebo]

Why is everyone so up in arms about this comment? Anyone who can subtract can understand that Stern is giving the NBA lady and gentlemen credit for being right 95% of the time. As much as we all like to be perfect, that's pretty close...
Also, I watched both the regular broadcast angle and the baseline angle on the Lebron end-of-game play at least 12-15 times and IMO he did not walk. At game speed, the play would probably trick me into calling a travel, but he did not appear to change pivot feet.
Lastly, if superstars "get all the calls" (which sounds like a fan/coach comment anyways), why are Shaq and Nash getting fined for complaining about "bad" calls that did not go their way? That is all I have...Look forward to your replies.

[sleebo]

"Fouls are based on a different philosophy than we call the HS game."

What philosophy would that be? I have not met many referees who do not apply the adv./disadv. philosophy when calling plays.
Also, how is a "high school" travel different from any other travel? The same rules apply as to pivot foot, where a player gathers on a jump stop, etc. I had the same opinion as most of you until I went to camp this summer and saw NBA plays that were no-called (in terms of travel vs. play on) slowed down and showed frame-by-frame. Just my two cents...

[BktBallRef]

So you telling us that viewership has gone down because of officiating? Viewership has gone down because the superstars get all the calls? That's funny. In the 80's and 90's when fanboys were complaining about Larry, Magic and Michael getting all the calls, viewership wasn't down.

Viewership is down because the players are spoiled brats and because there's no longer a Larry, Magic or Michael playing. It has nothing to do with officiating.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by sleebo

Also, I watched both the regular broadcast angle and the baseline angle on the Lebron end-of-game play at least 12-15 times and IMO he did not walk. At game speed, the play would probably trick me into calling a travel, but he did not appear to change pivot feet.

Sleebo, are you serious???? Did you miss the part after he ended his dribble, he came to a 2-step landing, then pumped faked Antonio Daniels, then took 2 steps towards the basket, then jumped off 2 feet?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Sleebo, are you serious???? Did you miss the part after he ended his dribble, he came to a 2-step landing, then pumped faked Antonio Daniels, then took 2 steps towards the basket, then jumped off 2 feet?

LOL....agree completely. That was ridiculous, even by NBA standards.

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Sleebo, are you serious???? Did you miss the part after he ended his dribble, he came to a 2-step landing, then pumped faked Antonio Daniels, then took 2 steps towards the basket, then jumped off 2 feet?

LOL...It is so obvious and yet the NBA runs it in every single highlight of the playoffs now!! What a joke. I wonder if Stern figured that call into his 95%.

[eiguaram55ref]

it's looked like LEBRON makes a jumpstop then an extra step towards the
basket--he got a big,big advantage--in PRO IT'S TRAVEL.

NBA CASEBOOK 2005-06;
371. PLAYER A1 DRIVES TO THE BASKET,GATHERS THE BALL,JUMPS OFF ONE FOOT
AND LANDS SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH BOTH FEET (jump stop).WHAT IS THE OPTIONS?
---Player A1 may jump to pass or shoot but is not allowed to pivot or "step through".

[Mark Padgett]

Now if we could only get David Stern to say something intelligent 95% of the time we would really have something!