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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 02:25pm
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Could you post the interpretation? I'm just trying to learn this rule in order to call this properly.
Try going to www.eofficals.com, work your way thru NCAA, Women's Basketball, and look through the archives...it will be in there somewhere under the Officiating Memo's or Officiating Program...that's about all I can tell you.

And as for Aggie not liking the rule and thinking it's stupid - ok. But to pick at it because you can't figure out what a "dribbler" is...well, that's not very intelligent either.
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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 03:00pm
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I don't think it's necessarily a stupid interpretation. What I do think is stupid is the fact that it's only an interpretation. I think that if the the women's game (or the men eventually) want the play called this way, they should put down a semi-circle to define exactly where "under the basket" is. Yes, it looks more NBA-ish, but at least it removes the guesswork for the officials. Put in a "Restricted Area" rule in the definitions and the markings on the floor and make it consistent. JMO
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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 03:58pm
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Try going to www.eofficals.com
Thanks for the link although it needs one more i in www.eofficials.com
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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 04:03pm
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Thanks for the link although it needs one more i in www.eofficials.com
Oops...did it help? (with the extra i, that is)
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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 04:10pm
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Try going to www.eofficals.com, work your way thru NCAA, Women's Basketball, and look through the archives...it will be in there somewhere under the Officiating Memo's or Officiating Program...that's about all I can tell you.
DJ, I found the interpretation of this play in the Officiating program manual on the NCAA site. However, it says the exact same thing that all heart posted in his second post in this thread. It's word for word. and it doesn't say anything about a secondary defender. So I'm confused by that as well.
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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 04:18pm
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DJ, I found the interpretation of this play in the Officiating program manual on the NCAA site. However, it says the exact same thing that all heart posted in his second post in this thread. It's word for word. and it doesn't say anything about a secondary defender. So I'm confused by that as well.
All I can say is that from the first day that this rule came out, we were told (over and over again) the exact interpretation I have given...I know that there were several of the Memos from the NCAA that explained it all. That's why I sent All Heart to the archives at eofficials.com (maybe the NCAA has an archive of memos at their site also?).
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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 04:46pm
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All I can say is that from the first day that this rule came out, we were told (over and over again) the exact interpretation I have given...I know that there were several of the Memos from the NCAA that explained it all. That's why I sent All Heart to the archives at eofficials.com (maybe the NCAA has an archive of memos at their site also?).
I checked out the archive and there was nothing in it. If you think of another place they might be let me know.
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Old Wed Apr 26, 2006, 04:44pm
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Usually, in my experience, it's a secondary defender that will move over and camp out directly under the basket. The primary defender is usually moving with the offensive player. I don't remember if there's a strict interpretation on secondary vs. primary defenders, but it's usually the secondary defender that comes over to help that's doing the camping.

I'm not sure it's been mentioned yet, but the reasoning behind this is due to the fact the defender chooses that spot not for playing defense, because there is no chance to block a shot from under the basket, but rather for the sole purpose of drawing contact from the driving offensive player after the shot. The NCAA-W committee felt this was an uneccessary play from a possible injury standpoint. Also, a point that was made earlier was this only applies to "north-south" drives to the basket, iow, a drive down the lane from, say, outside the free throw line. If the drive originates from the corner and moves along the baseline, this rule does not apply because the defensive player still could be defending a pass into the opposite corner, or the offensive player could continue to drive along the baseline under the basket, so the defender is actually playing some other kind of defense other than just standing there to take contact.

Yea, I know, drawing charges is also playing defense. I don't know if I explained it very well, but the committee is just trying to get rid of any uneccessary contact. It's not one of my favorite rules, but I (kinda) understand why it's there. As far as it being stupid, I can think of other rules that are further up the stupid ladder than this one (matching color headbands?...). But, if I'm going to call that game, I guess I'm going to enforce all the rules of that game, whether or not I think they're stupid.
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