Rule Changes for Next Season

[bbref3103]

Maybe that is why you are a high school referee and haven't moved up in the ranks. Anyone who is worth there weight knows and has been taught that you refereee the clock as well as the game. Blow whistle -- look at the clock. Do you think that coaches monitor the clock when a whistle is blown? Nope. Especially not in high school. Here is a tip -- get a clock reference when any whistle is blown.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by bbref3103

Maybe that is why you are a high school referee and haven't moved up in the ranks.

Do you mind spelling out what your own personal qualifications are that allows you to look down on the lowly, average high school official?

NCAA D1 official?

NBA official?

Just wondering......

[jritchie]

you can still referee the players as you look at the clock for a split second to get an idea of what it reads....surely as officials we can do both!! I feel this is an important part of "game management", if anything happens, you will know what to do!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Do you mind spelling out what your own personal qualifications are that allows you to look down on the lowly, average high school official?

NCAA D1 official?

NBA official?

Just wondering......

Bump....

Still waiting.......

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Do you mind spelling out what your own personal qualifications are that allows you to look down on the lowly, average high school official?

NCAA D1 official?

NBA official?

Just wondering......

Bump, bbref3103....

Still waiting.....

[BBall_Junkie]

Wow.... JR you have an incredible memory and a little on the persistant side

[johnny1784]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Bump, bbref3103....

Still waiting.....

And so am I... May be he/she is actually a basketball coach?

[Mountaineer]

Man, I can feel the love exuding from this post! I do HS bball and HS and college softball here in WV. At one point I wanted to get into the D2 conference for bball but have since changed my mind. I have many fellow officials who do and they DO have to get off of work at 1 or 2 in the afternoon to make it to a school by 5:30 or so. Some work in other conferences and actually have to take a day off to get to thier games - I'm not interested in that.

As far as 3103 goes - I think his/her communication skills are lacking for certain. But his point of clock awareness I think is valid. I do work with a lot of D1 and D2 officials and have learned to have clock awareness during a game. If a coach calls time (especially at the end of a game) - I try to look at the clock as I blow my whistle - just a glance. If you aren't watching the clock, how do you know it has started or stopped? Looking at the clock IS important. I showed up at a game this year and watched the JV game before mine. I noticed the guy keeping the clock was stopping the clock on a made basket (must have thought he was in the NBA) and the JV officials were oblivious to it. (Of course I said something to one of them during a timeout because the game was going on and on and on. . .) I made sure during pregame to correct him as well. Bottom line is whether we do it or not, keeping track of the clock is a good habit to pick up. Are you telling me you ONLY watch the players?? You NEVER see that good-looking mother in the 8th row of the 3rd section?

We all do things and pick up things to improve. That's something that I've picked up and it gives me a better game awareness.

[rockyroad]

[QUOTE=bbref3103]Maybe that is why you are a high school referee and haven't moved up in the ranks. Anyone who is worth there weight knows and has been taught that you refereee the clock as well as the game. [QUOTE]

Wow...15 whole posts and and he/she already knows what level everyone works. Pretty good detective work there 3103...and who "referees the clock"?? I ref the defense, I cover the press, I concentrate on the post, I am aware of the clock - but I've never seen the clock foul anyone or commit a violation of any kind, so why would I "referee the clock"?

[JRutledge]

I will say this about the clock. If you attend camps or work around very experienced officials outside of HS, it is common that you will hear about watching the clock. So "3103" is exactly right when it comes to this being a "higher level" philosophy. If you are just a HS official and have never attended a college camp or been exposed to experienced college officials I can see someone not knowing this philosophy about "officiating the clock." As a college official you do have to watch the clock a lot if for no other reason to deal with a shot clock. So you do get in a habit to make sure the clock started properly.

Peace

[bbref3103]

Rocky -- it only took me 2 posts to figure out what level people in this forum work. But thanks for the props on my detective work. You are right, you will never see the "clock" committ a foul or violation, but why wouldn't you want to get a clock reference EVERY time a whistle is sounded? It is for the good of the crew and the game. It will also help you remember plays, that as a crew, you can talk about in your post game. If you take a mental note of a play that happened at the 5:03 mark left in the first half (Hey Jurassic -- what level do I work) it will help you as an official discuss and recognize plays and become a better referee.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by bbref3103

Rocky -- it only took me 2 posts to figure out what level people in this forum work. But thanks for the props on my detective work. You are right, you will never see the "clock" committ a foul or violation, but why wouldn't you want to get a clock reference EVERY time a whistle is sounded? It is for the good of the crew and the game. It will also help you remember plays, that as a crew, you can talk about in your post game. If you take a mental note of a play that happened at the 5:03 mark left in the first half (Hey Jurassic -- what level do I work) it will help you as an official discuss and recognize plays and become a better referee.

Wow...only two posts. You're smarter than I thought...and of course you want a clock reference, and not just every time a whistle is blown, but also when a basket is scored, when a turnover occurs, etc., etc...but you certainly don't "referee the clock". That's a ridiculous statement...it's called clock management, game mangement, whatever, but you're not "refereeing the clock".

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Good.

Now why don't you disappear and find a site that's appropriate for your advanced skill and ability? You're much too advanced for the lowly high school officials that post here....even the lowly high school officials that also might do some college ball also.

I think I met this guy at the 12U AAU tourney I worked a few weeks ago. He was the guy who stopped he game to scream 'DO YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM!!???" at the parents booing him after a 3 second call.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I think I met this guy at the 12U AAU tourney I worked a few weeks ago. He was the guy who stopped he game to scream 'DO YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHO I AM!!???" at the parents booing him after a 3 second call.

Actually, if you read bbref3103's first post from a year ago, you'll find out exactly what he's like.

http://www.officialforum.com/showthread.php?t=19957

"Nuff said......

Btw, from another old thread, he gave out the information that, as of a year ago, he was just finishing his fourth year of officiating. That means that he currently has got about 5 years in. Kinda amazing how he's just zoomed by all the lowly high school officials and is now flying out and collecting all those $2000 NCAA checks in such a short time.

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Actually, if you read bbref3103's first post from a year ago, you'll find out exactly what he's like.

http://www.officialforum.com/showthread.php?t=19957

"Nuff said......

Btw, from another old thread, he gave out the information that, as of a year ago, he was just finishing his fourth year of officiating. That means that he currently has got about 5 years in. Kinda amazing how he's just zoomed by all the lowly high school officials and is now flying out and collecting all those $2000 NCAA checks in such a short time.

Ah yes, the old coach baiter. I'm sure he is flying up the officiating ladder and leaving us in the dust. I wish I had his communication skills.

Z