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ChuckElias Wed Apr 05, 2006 04:50pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Naw, I didn't insult you at all, Rook. If I hadda, you woulda known it, believe me.:)

I said it was completely up to you whether you follow anybody's advice on this forum or listen to anybody either. Obviously, you don't like or agree with the any of the counsel that you've been given. That's cool; I could care less. Do what you want to do and ignore who you want to ignore. Who cares? It's just a waste of both of our time anyway, isn't it?

Have a great career.

Isn't that pretty much what I just said? :confused:

By the way, could you really care less? Or did you mean that you couldn't care less? As in, there's absolutely nothing lower on your priority list.

Just a little tip from your friendly neighborhood Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy.

BktBallRef Wed Apr 05, 2006 05:02pm

TR, you might want to read some of your own posts before you start complaining about people insulting you. Your posts were dripping with sarcasm before I ever posted in this thread.

Here's some of the gems you've posted in this thread:

"Z, just so I can understand this common sense approach. (I am growing here so I can become a state level official)"

"Way to support your fellow official!!"

"It is good to know according to you, I am worthy of working some level of basketball. Thanks for the compliment. "

"A DQed player puts me into a position to make a proper call and I should ignore it because it does not pass the common sense test."

"Please do not waste your time replying to anything you feel will expose your shortcomings in that situation."

Pot. Kettle. Black.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

26 Year Gap Wed Apr 05, 2006 05:04pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Isn't that pretty much what I just said? :confused:

By the way, could you really care less? Or did you mean that you couldn't care less? As in, there's absolutely nothing lower on your priority list.

Just a little tip from your friendly neighborhood Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy.

Maybe he meant that he COULD care less but he really didn't.

BktBallRef Wed Apr 05, 2006 05:06pm

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
Maybe he meant that he COULD care less but he really didn't.

Probably thought it would be a waste of his time. ;)

Jurassic Referee Wed Apr 05, 2006 05:12pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Isn't that pretty much what I just said? :confused:

By the way, could you really care less? Or did you mean that you couldn't care less? As in, there's absolutely nothing lower on your priority list.

Just a little tip from your friendly neighborhood Mr. Annoying Grammar Guy.

Shouldn't you be out auditioning for that Quasimodo role?

Jurassic Referee Wed Apr 05, 2006 05:14pm

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Originally Posted by BktBallRef
Probably thought it would be a waste of his time. ;)

Or..... he really doesn't give a sh!t.....:D

26 Year Gap Wed Apr 05, 2006 05:19pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Or..... he really doesn't give a sh!t.....:D

Are you calling for a plumber? :D

ChuckElias Wed Apr 05, 2006 05:57pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Shouldn't you be out auditioning for that Quasimodo role?

Depends on who's playing La Esmerelda. If it's Maureen O'Hara again, I'll pass.

Jurassic Referee Wed Apr 05, 2006 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Depends on who's playing La Esmerelda. If it's Maureen O'Hara again, I'll pass.

She doesn't really ring your chimes, eh?

ChuckElias Thu Apr 06, 2006 07:29am

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
She doesn't really ring your chimes, eh?

I've never met her, but her face rings a bell.

Dribble Thu Apr 06, 2006 04:36pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Heading into the hallway to get a drink or sitting up in the stands with friends or family, even for a short period of time are not authorized reasons unless they are medically related.

Personally, I ignore a player going to get water...especially if he/she just played his/her butt off. I don't want to be responsible for a player getting dehydrated and sick from that causing a medically related situation. Sure, it was their responsibility to have their bottle filled beforehand, but if the player needs water at that moment, then take the walk. As long as it's not disruptive, then it's ok by me.

Jurassic Referee Thu Apr 06, 2006 06:34pm

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Originally Posted by Dribble
Personally, I ignore a player going to get water...especially if he/she just played his/her butt off. I don't want to be responsible for a player getting dehydrated and sick from that causing a medically related situation. Sure, it was their responsibility to have their bottle filled beforehand, but if the player needs water at that moment, then take the walk. As long as it's not disruptive, then it's ok by me.

Dribble, you do realize that the statement that you are disagreeing with isn't mine, I hope. It's cited directly out of this year's NFHS rule book. Iow, you are saying that the rulebook should be ignored.

Dribble Fri Apr 07, 2006 04:10pm

Yup, I do recognize it and I'm not saying that to be argumentative. I'm just saying that if a kid is going to drop because he/she needs water, then I'm not going to stop it.

I know it was a POE, but the intent of that was to prevent unnecessary foolishness on some players' parts. Some kids think they can do whatever during the game, so the NFHS came up with that to curb such behavior.

I'm not suggesting we ignore the rulebook, but use our discretion and judgment as to when to apply it.

bbcoach7 Fri Apr 07, 2006 06:32pm

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Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee
Do they ignore POE's in your area, deecee?

From the 2004-05 rule book:
POE 3A: The committee is also concerned about bench personnel leaving the bench, sometimes during a live ball. Heading into the hallway to get a drink or sitting up in the stands with friends or family, even for a short period of time are not authorized reasons unless they are medically related. Coaches must ensure that bench personnel stay on the bench."

Just wanted to add- I tend to agree, stay on the bench, coach do your job and take care of the team by traveling with drinking water. Players- stay the hell out of the stands unless you want to watch the rest of the season from there.
HOWEVER...
staying hydrated could be considered medically necessary ;)

26 Year Gap Fri Apr 07, 2006 07:05pm

Old School
 
In MY day, we waited till halftime to get a drink and then when the game was over. These kids today.....;)


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