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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 01:35pm
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I don't have a problem with you making that call in that situation...and your partner's comments are a classic way of deflecting attention from himself getting his a$$ beat down the court!! In the Mich/SC play, the L really shouldn't see that because he has other things he's SUPPOSED to be watching. Tomegun's point (and mine) is that the "get it right" philosophy has become an excuse for making calls all over the court, out of primary areas, etc...

Example: I was L, post player about 5 ft. from basket and right in front of me goes up for a little turn-around jumper...defender jumps and blocks it cleanly. Whistle from C and C calls a foul!!! Comment in the locker room at half-time:
Me: What the hell was that?
C:Oh that had to be called!
M:There wasn't even any contact.
C:You must have been straight-lined.
T:No way, there was nothing there. You had no business calling that or looking there.
C:We need to get those right.
M:We need to trust that our partners will get things right in their primary.

End of discussion...haven't worked with that partner again, and hope I never have to again. She was willing to sell out her crew to make herself look good for the home coach (visiting team was from across the country).

Rocky,

I completely agree with you and Tomegon on people using the "get it right" statement as an excuse to ball watch. However, I'm not sure that "what the hell was that" were the proper words to start the halftime conversation about your partner reaching out of their area.

Z
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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 01:39pm
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Rocky,

I completely agree with you and Tomegon on people using the "get it right" statement as an excuse to ball watch. However, I'm not sure that "what the hell was that" were the proper words to start the halftime conversation about your partner reaching out of their area.

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It was not the start of the halftime talk, nor the start of the conversation about that play. I didn't even bring it up, she did...I simply expressed what I thought about it!
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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 02:33pm
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Sorry, I'm not all warm and cudly when it comes to situations like this. I don't have any problem with what Rocky said. The alternative - and what happens a lot - is to say, "good game" and then rip the official as soon as we get in our car. It is just easier for me to be honest. You could always say, "you're not getting any of my check so you might as well let me earn it!"
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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 03:48pm
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Sorry, I'm not all warm and cudly when it comes to situations like this. I don't have any problem with what Rocky said. The alternative - and what happens a lot - is to say, "good game" and then rip the official as soon as we get in our car. It is just easier for me to be honest. You could always say, "you're not getting any of my check so you might as well let me earn it!"
I prefer something like, "don't you trust me?" They look at me like, "what are you talking about." Then I say, "well you must not trust me because you are watching in my area as well as yours." It doesn't lead to a fight (in fact, they usually laugh and apologize) but it gets the point across.

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Old Fri Mar 31, 2006, 04:09pm
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I prefer something like, "don't you trust me?" They look at me like, "what are you talking about." Then I say, "well you must not trust me because you are watching in my area as well as yours." It doesn't lead to a fight (in fact, they usually laugh and apologize) but it gets the point across.

Z
That works too!
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Old Sat Apr 01, 2006, 10:54pm
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Sorry, I'm not all warm and cudly when it comes to situations like this. I don't have any problem with what Rocky said. The alternative - and what happens a lot - is to say, "good game" and then rip the official as soon as we get in our car. It is just easier for me to be honest. You could always say, "you're not getting any of my check so you might as well let me earn it!"
LOL!! Can't fault that! I would always rather that a partner "rip me" to my face - that gives me the best chance to learn from my mistakes, or maybe clear up a misunderstanding.
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2006, 12:12am
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jkjenning, I just noticed your signature. Tell us how you really feel! M$ has the best marketing department in the universe! That is the only way they can survive.

I'm using my Windows (server) 2003 PC right now, but I've been using my Apple Powerbook more and more.
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2006, 01:37am
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M$ has the best marketing department in the universe!
How do I really feel?
Open-source Rules ---> proprietary software is a problem, not a solution.
I'm lazy, so I'm using Fedora Core 4 - but there are lots of stable alternatives to M$ Windoze. Yea, they have quite a treasure chest - oh well... they still can't produce reliably stable software and they ignore the quality software others write because "it's not theirs", choosing to try to cram their own standards [Java, anyone?] into the market instead.
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