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jeffpea Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge
I realize that, but I do not see this as a big problem or something that has to be pointed out so that officials take action. Now the POE for taking out the jersey and those situations needed to be stated because it was something new in the past few years. I do not see that much dunking and seeing players yelling at the top of the lungs.

Peace

JRut - watch this weekend; I guarantee you that you'll count at least six post-dunk screams by players this weekend. Hell, Noah even does it when the opponent calls a timeout after the Gators have gone on a 10-0 run (and he never enen dunked during that stretch!)

26 Year Gap Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:05pm

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Originally Posted by jeffpea
Not sure what the Bridge of Peril is - but my favorite color is whatever you're wearing....:) Well, OK - it's red.

I stand corrected...it is the Bridge of Death [which can be perilous]
Stop. Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see.
Sir Lancelot: Ask me the questions, bridgekeeper. I am not afraid.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your name?
Sir Lancelot: My name is Sir Lancelot of Camelot.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
Sir Lancelot: To seek the Holy Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your favourite colour?
Sir Lancelot: Blue.
Bridgekeeper: Go on. Off you go.
Sir Lancelot: Oh, thank you. Thank you very much.
Sir Robin: That's easy.
Bridgekeeper: Stop. Who would cross the Bridge of Death must answer me these questions three, ere the other side he see.
Sir Robin: Ask me the questions, bridgekeeper. I'm not afraid.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your name?
Sir Robin: Sir Robin of Camelot.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
Sir Robin: To seek the Holy Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is the capital of Assyria?
[pause]
Sir Robin: I don't know that.
[he is thrown over the edge into the volcano]
Sir Robin: Auuuuuuuugh.
Bridgekeeper: Stop. What... is your name?
Galahad: Sir Galahad of Camelot.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
Galahad: I seek the Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your favourite colour?
Galahad: Blue. No, yel...
[he is also thrown over the edge]
Galahad: auuuuuuuugh.
Bridgekeeper: Hee hee heh. Stop. What... is your name?
King Arthur: It is 'Arthur', King of the Britons.
Bridgekeeper: What... is your quest?
King Arthur: To seek the Holy Grail.
Bridgekeeper: What... is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
King Arthur: What do you mean? An African or European swallow?
Bridgekeeper: Huh? I... I don't know that.
Auuuuuuuugh.
Sir Bedevere: How do know so much about swallows?
King Arthur: Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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Just so you have the context.:D

jeffpea Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:16pm

"tis but a flesh wound"

"run away! run away! run away!"

26 Year Gap Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:21pm

Well, you have to know these things when you're a ref you know.:D

Corndog89 Wed Mar 29, 2006 01:00am

Clearly I'm out of touch with the mainstream on this one, but I don't see the big deal with players screaming after a big play. Its like spontaneous celebration by bench personnel after a big play...git 'r done, get back to business. And what if Joakim Noah played for your favorite team, instead of Florida (somebody said he hates the gators)...would you then be as hard on him for screaming? And why do I care if he wants to yell a lot...like I'm going looking for problems because I'm personally offended? And (yes, another "and") as officials, should we even care what team and/or player is involved?

Now if the screaming clearly is or could easily be interpreted as taunting, then that's a different matter. And if emotions begin to run a little hot I'll step in and attempt some diplomacy before brining out the heavy ar"T"illery. But otherwise, is it so different from a player pumping a fist or high-fiving a teammate as he runs back down court? These are kids...let 'em have fun before they head to the non-celebratory NFL. Whoops...wrong sport.

Time2Ref Wed Mar 29, 2006 07:09am

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffpea
time2ref - what you posted was different from I saw on the main page (they may have removed it). It was classic Noah - on his way back to the floor after a dunk - screaming while flexing....

Thanks for the help though.


Yeah, I thought he looked a little mild there. How about these????

http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5446938_7_2.jpg



http://msn.foxsports.com/id/5447302_7_2.jpg



The old Monty Python movie "In Search of the Holy Grail"
.......LOL.......LOL......LOL......GREAT MOVIE..............
I loved the part about the Black Knight "Come over here you coward.....I'll bite your ankle".

tomegun Wed Mar 29, 2006 08:17am

Noah had the bench plastered to his butt last year and now he is emerging as one of the stars in the tournament. Is all this suppose to occur without emotion? Face it, sports are often emotional.

If this emotion spills over into taunting, I think it should be punished accordingly.

BTW, I don't know if I ever completed a (traditional) three-point play without giving a little yell. :p

ChuckElias Wed Mar 29, 2006 08:38am

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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap
I stand corrected...it is the Bridge of Death [which can be perilous]

Let me face the peril!

No. It's too perilous.

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/jpgs/zootgirl.jpg

ChuckElias Wed Mar 29, 2006 08:40am

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Originally Posted by Time2Ref
"Come over here you coward.....I'll bite your ankle".

What are you going to do? Bleed on me?

Ooooh! I'll do you for that!

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/jpgs/bknight2.jpg

jeffpea Wed Mar 29, 2006 10:02am

[QUOTE=Corndog89]Clearly I'm out of touch with the mainstream on this one, but I don't see the big deal with players screaming after a big play. Its like spontaneous celebration by bench personnel after a big play...git 'r done, get back to business.
QUOTE]

I have no problem at all with players showing emotion/enthusiasm during a game or after an important play. I do have a problem when players scream and celebrate after every play their involved in. I've seen Noah scream after a dunk, a blocked shot, a rebound, a time-out called by the other team, and his pre-game introduction (just to name a few).

The over/under line from Vegas on Noah's Screams is 10.5 for Sat's game. I'm going with the over - it's the Final Four, big crowd, his dad will be over from France. It all add's up to a new Final Four record.....

Jimgolf Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:05am

Let's ask for a POE about all forms of expression next year. Anything other than, "Thanks for the foul call, sir, may I have another?" will be unsportsmanlike conduct.

jeffpea Wed Mar 29, 2006 01:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimgolf
Let's ask for a POE about all forms of expression next year. Anything other than, "Thanks for the foul call, sir, may I have another?" will be unsportsmanlike conduct.

Hqw about a POE the says that Joakim Noah isn't allowed on the floor next year?......oh, wait - an NBA team will draft him, pay him good money, and have him sit on the bench...that works for me.

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 29, 2006 06:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckElias
Let me face the peril!

No. It's too perilous.

http://www.mwscomp.com/movies/grail/jpgs/zootgirl.jpg

Spank me. No, spank me.

26 Year Gap Wed Mar 29, 2006 06:43pm

[QUOTE=jeffpea]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corndog89
Clearly I'm out of touch with the mainstream on this one, but I don't see the big deal with players screaming after a big play. Its like spontaneous celebration by bench personnel after a big play...git 'r done, get back to business.
QUOTE]

I have no problem at all with players showing emotion/enthusiasm during a game or after an important play. I do have a problem when players scream and celebrate after every play their involved in. I've seen Noah scream after a dunk, a blocked shot, a rebound, a time-out called by the other team, and his pre-game introduction (just to name a few).

The over/under line from Vegas on Noah's Screams is 10.5 for Sat's game. I'm going with the over - it's the Final Four, big crowd, his dad will be over from France. It all add's up to a new Final Four record.....

http://www.cdaccess.com/gifs/screen/holygr3.jpg

Corndog89 Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:31am

[QUOTE=jeffpea]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Corndog89
Clearly I'm out of touch with the mainstream on this one, but I don't see the big deal with players screaming after a big play. Its like spontaneous celebration by bench personnel after a big play...git 'r done, get back to business.
QUOTE]

I have no problem at all with players showing emotion/enthusiasm during a game or after an important play. I do have a problem when players scream and celebrate after every play their involved in. I've seen Noah scream after a dunk, a blocked shot, a rebound, a time-out called by the other team, and his pre-game introduction (just to name a few).

The over/under line from Vegas on Noah's Screams is 10.5 for Sat's game. I'm going with the over - it's the Final Four, big crowd, his dad will be over from France. It all add's up to a new Final Four record.....

and...

"Hqw about a POE the says that Joakim Noah isn't allowed on the floor next year?......oh, wait - an NBA team will draft him, pay him good money, and have him sit on the bench...that works for me."

JPea...you seem to have a real issue with Noah. Whassup?

So, for atonement, you must bring me........A SHRUBBERY!


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