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kycat1 Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:39am

The local high school refs are concerned about how our pay per game compares to the rest of the country. As you all know the price of gas has gone up greatly the past 2 years, but our game fees have not. Locally we call 2 varsity HS games (1 girls and 1 boys) in a 3 man crew and each get paid $65 for about 5 hours of travel and game time. I think this is way too low for what we do for State High school Asociation. What is everyone else making a night or per game?

ChuckElias Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:53am

$65 for two varsity games? Wow. But then, you're not really doing it for the money anyway, right? :)

We've had this discussion before and the fees run anywhere from about $40 for a varsity game to $95, depending on the area of the country. Those are 2-whistle fees.

You're worse than some, better than others.

Dan_ref Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:00am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
$65 for two varsity games? Wow. But then, you're not really doing it for the money anyway, right? :)

We've had this discussion before and the fees run anywhere from about $40 for a varsity game to $95, depending on the area of the country. Those are 2-whistle fees.

You're worse than some, better than others.

Chuck, if the known fees range from $40 on up per game & he gets $32.50 per game he's worse than everyone.


ChuckElias Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:02am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Chuck, if the known fees range from $40 on up per game & he gets $32.50 per game he's worse than everyone.
But the $40 is for 2-whistle and he works 3-whistle.

Dan_ref Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:04am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Chuck, if the known fees range from $40 on up per game & he gets $32.50 per game he's worse than everyone.
But the $40 is for 2-whistle and he works 3-whistle.

...and....? Does that make his $32.50 somehow worth more than $40?

(Sorry for the diversion kycat1, we'll get back to you in a second.)

Raymond Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:06am

But hey, ain't it all about the kids, not the officials, right? :rolleyes:

Maybe it's those low fees that is leading to all that discord among officials in Kentucky. After only getting $65 for working a Varsity double-header, I can see why it's a big deal to work one of those $55 State games.

ChuckElias Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:23am

Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
But the $40 is for 2-whistle and he works 3-whistle.
...and....? Does that make his $32.50 somehow worth more than $40? [/B][/QUOTE]No, but maybe the pay scale for 3-whistle is considerably lower around the country. I have no knowledge of that information. Maybe the pay scale for 3-while is from $30-$50 per game, depending on location. In that case, he's again on the low side, but not the worst.

I just didn't want to be accused of comparing apples and oranges. Instead, I get accused of not being able to compare 40 and 32.50. I can't win.

Why don't spend your time coming up with a better format for the NCAA tournament, instead of torturing me with nit-picky commentary. Oh wait, you're doing that in the other thread, too.

dacodee Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:35am

In Central Jersey - $52.50 for Freshman; $52.50 for JV (boys or girs). I walk out with a $105 check everyday. And, I've heard complaints about that. The Varsity guys get $67.50 for two man crew.


Dan_ref Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:38am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by Dan_ref
But the $40 is for 2-whistle and he works 3-whistle.
...and....? Does that make his $32.50 somehow worth more than $40?

No, but maybe the pay scale for 3-whistle is considerably lower around the country. I have no knowledge of that information. Maybe the pay scale for 3-while is from $30-$50 per game, depending on location. In that case, he's again on the low side, but not the worst.

I just didn't want to be accused of comparing apples and oranges. Instead, I get accused of not being able to compare 40 and 32.50. I can't win.

Why don't spend your time coming up with a better format for the NCAA tournament, instead of torturing me with nit-picky commentary. Oh wait, you're doing that in the other thread, too. [/B][/QUOTE]

:p

Oh, and btw, there's a typo in your post. Can you spot it?

MajorCord Wed Mar 15, 2006 03:14pm

Piedmont section of North Carolina:

$67.50 per official for two JV games (2-man crew)

$75.00 per official for two V games (3-man crew)

Spareme Wed Mar 15, 2006 03:36pm

Western NY

$53 for one JV contest

$75 for one Varsity contest

Rarely, if ever, do you do a doubleheader.

2 man crews

kraz423 Wed Mar 15, 2006 03:57pm

Western Wisconsin the pay is:

Varsity Reserve $35.00 (2-whistle)

Varsity $50-55.00 (2-Whistle and depending on the conference).

We normally will not do doubleheaders unless there is an unusual circumstance (official gets hurt, not show for whatever reason). We are toying with the 3-whistle. Our state association implemented 3-whistle for our state tournament. It is not the norm for the regular season and to be honest with you some of the administartors, coaches, athletic directors are against it and my guess is that it has to do with the budget.

I aplogize for digressing.

Raymond Wed Mar 15, 2006 04:44pm

Hampton Roads, VA

All game fees are prior to 8% commissioner's fee being subtracted
Boys & Girls fees are the same
All games Varsity except where noted


Peninsula District (AAA schools)
Boys (3-man)/Girls (2-man) $67.50
Play-offs: all 3-man except for Girls quarterfinals

Bay Rivers District (AA schools)
2-man $60.00 (2 schools have $20 travel fee split between 2 officials)
Play-offs: all 3-man Boys & Girls

One particular Single-A school
3-man JV/Varsity Doubleheader $75.00 (plus $15 travel split between 3 officials)
X-mas tourney (Varsity only): 2-man $60 (plus $15 travel split between 2 officials)
Post-season (Varsity only): 3-man $60 (plus $15 travel split between 3 officials)

Independent Schools
2-man $35-$60

[Edited by BadNewsRef on Mar 15th, 2006 at 04:50 PM]

tjones1 Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:08pm

Quote:

Originally posted by MajorCord
Piedmont section of North Carolina:

$67.50 per official for two JV games (2-man crew)

$75.00 per official for two V games (3-man crew)

Around the southern part of IL, JV is about $40 (two man), and $50 for varsity boys (usually three man).

For girls, you usually work both games, three man for $60.

7/8th, both games is 40 and well as Fresh/Soph.

bebanovich Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:27pm

I have a feeling that California is near the bottom, can anyone confirm? I think the median home price in our area is now about $600,000 which makes it a travesty for all who work with kids. School funding made a beeline for the low 40's of 50 states in 1977 and hasn't moved back up - which brings me to my question:

Does officials' pay coincide more with funding for schools, popularity of sports or density of population?


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