KY Referee Squabble - Outta Control

[irefky]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Now you are trying to justify what is the history? No one said that being called fat would not hurt, but it does not carry the same history. I know you think because you read some book and they told you white people were enslaved that must mean something. Well let me put it to you this way. My last name I cannot trace directly back the country or the ancestors that came before me. That applies to every single African-American I can think of (why do you think we use the term African-American in the first place?). Not knowing your family religion, tribe or customs are quite different from my standpoint compared to others that know who came over on the boat to this country and why they came over on the boat. In many cases we were here a lot longer than those that are white, but we have to prove we are Americans more than those that in the last century just got here.

Secondly no one was twisting anything. You made it sound like the guy was supposed to be a problem and decided not to be a problem. Those were your words, not mine. I used to belong to a pretty much all-Black association and we had white people in the organization. I would not refer to those members has "not causing problems" in any way. Either way it goes your statements showed a lot if you ask me. I do not get offended easily or care what people like you think. You just keep prove to all of us what we have to overcome.

Have a nice day.

Peace

You really have a lot of hatred, resentment. My apologies if you read more into what I was saying than what I was really saying. I just want all of us to live together. What I was saying, "I was more worried about white folks in our association having the problem, not the other guy." Not that it sound, more than you want it to sound offensive.

Please accept my apologies if I offended you. I certainly don't want to make anyone have to overcome anything that I say or do in life. I don't see black as African Americans, I really don't. I look at the black man as I do myself, as an American, nothing more or less.

I have read many of your post since I have been on these boards, I respect what you have posted. This does not change anything, a mutual respect. Thanks

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by irefky

You really have a lot of hatred, resentment. My apologies if you read more into what I was saying than what I was really saying. I just want all of us to live together. What I was saying, "I was more worried about white folks in our association having the problem, not the other guy." Not that it sound, more than you want it to sound offensive.

I had an opinion one what you said that means I have hatred and resentment? Who do I have this hatred towards? Let the truth be told I have accomplished a lot more than many with all things being equal. Race is a factor in a lot of things. I have no problem talking about that. You comments I found interesting and I was not the only one that pointed this fact out. Now if you are upset that someone took your words and drew a conclusion, well that is something you will have to do deep down in your soul.

Originally Posted by irefky

Please accept my apologies if I offended you. I certainly don't want to make anyone have to overcome anything that I say or do in life. I don't see black as African Americans, I really don't. I look at the black man as I do myself, as an American, nothing more or less.

Who said anything about being offended? I think you really need to look inward to find what you meant. I did not say I was at all offended. If anything I found your comments "interesting." Remember, you made them, I just commented on them. I am sorry that you have to define everything as what country they are from. Of course most people in this country are American; we should not have to keep pointing that out. This is not an international issue.

Peace

[house1987]

It has been a while since this topic hit the boards, but here’s what I know…you may believe it or not or voice your opinion about it or not.

Darrell Bailey was suspended for a year by the KHSAA. Darrell was the white official that came in the locker room at halftime of Vic Montgomery’s game. Victor resigned from the local and state association. Victor is no longer officiating high school basketball, but is still officiating at the collegiate level (I do not know if it's Division i, ii, or iii) and I hear is doing very well and has moved on since this incident. No lawsuit is pending that I know of. Darrell is still officiating, but I think only in the ABA. Darrell was asked to resign as president but did not resign. Victor was not asked to resign.

The assigning secretary, Rip Hatfield, was replaced…basically fired. Bobby McGrath is the new assigning secretary in Louisville.

This was a crazy incident and many rumors and untruths floated around. One thing for certain that did NOT happen is that neither official struck the other nor did the altercation EVER go into the stands. I think it is best the EVERYONE just move on and let this thing die down as the officials involved have done.

Personal attacks toward either official is not needed. This is just my opinion…

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by house1987

I think it is best the EVERYONE just move on and let this thing die down as the officials involved have done.

Considering that this thread had been dead for 9 months, I'd say that we'd already let it die down and moved on.

I'm just kidding around with you. Thanks for the update. That was obviously a very difficult and unpleasant situation. I'm glad it's resolved.

[house1987]

Yeah, you're right...however, there was a post wanting a resolution update a few months ago...so thus, the update.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by house1987

Yeah, you're right...however, there was a post wanting a resolution update a few months ago...so thus, the update.

You just had to ressurrect this, didn't you? Are you happy now?