How many technicals have you called this year?

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally posted by Dan_ref

Here are some of the better ones:

LOL. That's alot of posts to keep organized.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan

LOL. That's alot of posts to keep organized. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yea, but after a while don't they all start to look the same?...

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Dan_ref
Dec 2001?

Do you have a dedicated server with 100 GB hard drive to catalog all your forum posts?

LOL. No, just a hit on google. I remembered that I had used the phrase "T-magnet", but didn't realize it was '01 until I actually found the thread. I thought it was like last season.

And the picture of the posts is recycled too. So somebody should be busting on you for old pictures, instead of just on me.

[Edited by ChuckElias on Mar 1st, 2006 at 03:20 PM]

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by ChuckElias


And the picture of the posts is recycled too. So somebody should be busting on you for old pictures, instead of just on me.

Who me???!! Recycle jokes???

[thereluctantref]

I have a question...has anyone ever called a technical on a fan? I was coaching this year (5th and 6th grade boys basketball) and a fan/parent was arguing/"commenting" on every little call that went against his son's team. It was very distracting to our team and very nasty as far as sportsmanship goes. This went on the whole 2nd half practically. The referee finally went to the coach and warned him to control the fan or else he would give the team a technical. Could he have rightfully done this? Also, what is the point at where you draw the line for fans? How far can they be verbally abusive?
Thanks!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by thereluctantref
The referee finally went to the coach and warned him to control the fan or else he would give the team a technical. Could he have rightfully done this? Also, what is the point at where you draw the line for fans? How far can they be verbally abusive?

The rules do allow you to give a technical to a fan if you are sure that you know what team he is a supporter of. However, it's not recommended at all and it's a last-resort tactic. The recommended procedure is to simply put the fan in the parking lot. The official doesn't do that himself either; he gets game management to do it. The official points the fan out and says "I want him/her outa here- NOW". The game is stopped untill the fan leaves. If there isn't a representative of game management in the gym, then the home coach gets the job.

As for how far the fans can go? Being verbal is OK. Being verbally abusive isn't, especially in 5th. and 6th. grade games.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Mar 1st, 2006 at 05:50 PM]

[mj]

Originally posted by Rich Fronheiser

Too much Kool-Aid being passed around in this thread, IMO. T's are NOT, NOT, NOT like any other call, regardless of how many clinicians say so. Usually there's emotions running high on the coach's part and many times on the official's part (unless the official is a robot). How emotional is an out of bounds or traveling call?

I remember how many technicals I call, but usually forget by the next season. They are rare enough in my world that each one takes up a portion of my memory. I remember them not because I want to relive the glory of putting my hands together and awarding free throws, but because I want to remember how I handled situations.

2 Ts this season. One was a cumulative thing where the coach was talked to by all three of us during the first half. We talked about it at halftime and after the first foul in the second half, the coach called one of my partner's "ridiculous" while I was C in front of him. The other was a gesture made to my partner's back while I was coming up on the bench as the T tableside.

Remembering these doesn't mean I'm a gunslinger. It means I looked back to determine if the Ts were justified. They were. Both coaches, in retrospect, probably wanted one.

I agree totally. I don't have any this year. Last year either for that matter. Looking back, I probably should have given on early in the year when I called a 10 second backcourt violation and the coach went off. After he vented though the game went along just fine.

I know I have a long leash but I prefer to treat a coach as an adult and at least have a short conversation with him after a call he doesn't like. I think it is much more effective than "whacking" and walking away.

[BigJoe]

Had some very interesting T's this year. Here are the two that stand out:

J.V. game, player is told by partner to pull up his shorts so his underwear don't show. He pulls them up there, but has to be told again. At half, I tell the coach that this player won't be allowed to play unless his shorts are pulled up and his string is tightened. Sure enough, he is at the scorers table to check in, buzzer sounds for a substitution, I tell him to pull up his shorts. He gives me the "who do you think you are telling me what to do" look. I promptly tell the coach that we need a different sub. Kid sits on the end of the bench. I am C table side. I am in position and hear someone say "pussy". I wasn't sure who said it, but when he said "thats a bunch of $hit" I turn and whack him. Coach removes him from the gym.

Second interesting T was in a varsity game. Player A1 is run over by B1. I whistle B1 for a foul. A1 is on the floor and B1 offers his hand to help him up. A nice display of sportsmanship. A1 scoots back on his backside and stands up. I am standing right behind B1 as he says out loud "f'ing pussy". Now I had to agree with him, but I also had to whack him.....

Totals for the year 1 coach at least a dozen players.

[SMEngmann]

In about 90 HS games this year (80-90% varsity):

1 HC (disparaging comment about partner)
3 players
2 administrative (one in a sectional playoff after the coach had initialed that everything was correct and then had to add a name at gametime)

[lmeadski]

1 - Administrative: wrong number on player entering game.

YYYAAWWWNNNNNN

[Luv4Asian8]

Just a few Ts, but honestly don't remember.

But, I do remember

1 - Coach ejection (my first ejection, after earning his 2nd T, he slaps my hand away...WTF?!)

1 - Fan ejection (noted here on the boards earlier this season)

2 - CYO player ejections (same play, initial foul, followed by retaliation, followed by re-retaliation)

started three years ago, no ejections til this season with FOUR!!!

[Stripes1950]

I don't remember calling a T this boys season. Have done about 40 games (HS JV & V). I did call one in girls season, about 30 games (HS JV & V). We still have girls in the fall here in Michigan. That one was for a taped over earring on a JV player. It was a month into the season and she said that no one had made her remove the tape or earring and she had it from the beginning of the season. That is the only one that I have called but I am sure that I have overlooked some situations that require the T. Just my 2 cents.

[Texas Aggie]

Coaches:
Head -- 1
Asst. (?? -- wasn't coaching, just yelling) -- 1
Near misses -- 3 or 4

Players:
4 or 5, most of the ball slamming down variety; one or two mouthing.

Administrative (book): a bunch. Like 5 or 6, more than in all my other years combined. What's going on here?

I honestly don't call a lot but I won't let the game get anything close to out of control. I'll start handing out Ts like raffle chances at the first little sign of control problems.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Stripes1950
I did call one in girls season, about 30 games (HS JV & V). We still have girls in the fall here in Michigan. That one was for a taped over earring on a JV player.

Stripes, I know it's water under the bridge at this point, but you can't give a T for the earring. You simply send the player out of the game, or not allow her entry into the game. There's no provision for a technical foul for this equipment violation.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally posted by jritchie
1 coach, but all he said was "Don't ask any questions, just give me a T..."

What the hell is this, Hoosiers?

If a coach told me to T him, I'd probably have half a mind to tell him to F-Off.