stay at table?

[KDM]

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Originally posted by Alaska Ref on 01-12-2000 12:00 AM
Joe Bob, Jeremy and Indy.

In no way am i afraid to call or inform a coach or player of the 5th foul. At clinics the discussion of preventive officating pops up and the division-1 referee's recommend that after a "T" or on a 5th foul get away from the bench's! Why when calling a foul and going to administer free throw's, does the Officials Manual on page 36 say go around the players not thru them. (Don't be in their Face's) It makes good sense to just keep away, you don't have to prove that you can call a "T", it is smarter to preventive officate, just like we tell players to watch the knees, keep the elbows down etc., why call one when we should be talking them out of about 5 fouls per game.

NOTE: In the event a player has 5 fouls and then gets a "T" before being replaced it is not an "indirect on the coach"! he is still a player until he is replaced on the floor. I was incorrect in my first reply.

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Don,

I think, in some situations, the best 'preventive' officiating is to call the foul or violation! Talking can only go so far. This is not an absolute of course, and only 'you' must decide what deserves 'talking' and what deserves 'calling'.

As far as the manual, it also says that the calling official should inform the coach of the 5th foul. Are you going to ignore that 'mechanic', but enforce the 'mechanic' for going around the players to report a foul to the table? Try to be CONSISTENT. The 'other level' guys are going to tell you what works best for them at the college level. If you are working high school, do it the high school way!!

The mechanic for 'going around' the players has more meaning than, as you stated, "being in their face's." The manuel requires the non-callling official(s) to watch the players while you are reporting the foul, therefore, you can report the foul without being obstructed and can get to the 'foul reporting area' quickly.

Also, if a player has received their 5th foul, once you notify the head coach, he/she is no longer a player. At that point, if this player receives a technical foul, it IS
charged to the head coach as an 'indirect'!
Please read Case Book Play 2.8.4. and the comment.

KDM