Would you do this?

[SmokeEater]

If this is ongoing throughout the game I would do that. Especially when the team is causing a delay in the game. If there were any complaints then I can issue a Delay of game warning to the team, and any further delay for breaking the huddle would constitute a T. Lucky for me I have not had to do any of these things.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by SmokeEater
If this is ongoing throughout the game I would do that. Especially when the team is causing a delay in the game. If there were any complaints then I can issue a Delay of game warning to the team, and any further delay for breaking the huddle would constitute a T. Lucky for me I have not had to do any of these things.

This isn't a "warning then T" delay situation.

[Junker]

If they are slow coming out, I'll stay by the huddle and give them a nice, hard, long whistle and let them know they had better get out. If they are not running onto the floor, I'll signal to put the ball in. Coach had the whole halftime to inspire his team. He needs to be finished and ready to play on time.

[SmokeEater]

Originally posted by bob jenkins

This isn't a "warning then T" delay situation.

If they are delaying the game from resuming as per rule 10-3-1 (d) how can it not be a delay of game warning.

Common sense would tell us that after teh warning the coach should get the picture. I know common sense isn't all that common anymore.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by SmokeEater

If they are delaying the game from resuming as per rule 10-3-1 (d) how can it not be a delay of game warning.

Common sense would tell us that after teh warning the coach should get the picture. I know common sense isn't all that common anymore.

Common sense would tell us to follow the applicable rule, which is NFHS rule 7-5-1........ That rule does not allow for a "delay of game" warning, as Bob said. The ball is placed at the disposal of the thrower or on the floor and the 5-second count starts. Then you call a violation, if necessary. If the team you called the violation on continues to delay, then you can call a "T" on them. At no time, however, is a delay warning issued.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Jan 25th, 2006 at 11:38 AM]

[rockyroad]

I don't have my rulebooks with me at work today, but unless my memory is really slipping the delay of game rules are a little bit different for the start of the second half than they are for a time-out...doesn't the rule book talk about "consuming more than 1 minute" after the horn to signal the end of half-time? So they get some extra time to break their huddle before we start the second half...a normal time-out situation, they need to be ready on the second horn, but not at intermission...

[SmokeEater]

My rule reference was for NCAA

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by rockyroad
I don't have my rulebooks with me at work today, but unless my memory is really slipping the delay of game rules are a little bit different for the start of the second half than they are for a time-out...doesn't the rule book talk about "consuming more than 1 minute" after the horn to signal the end of half-time? So they get some extra time to break their huddle before we start the second half...a normal time-out situation, they need to be ready on the second horn, but not at intermission...

Nope, there's no difference at all between TO's and the end of intermissions, Rocky. As soon as the final signal(second horn) is sounded for both, the administering official blows his whistle and then starts the "resuming play" procedure if a team(s) isn't ready.

[rockyroad]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

Nope, there's no difference at all between TO's and the end of intermissions, Rocky. As soon as the final signal(second horn) is sounded for both, the administering official blows his whistle and then starts the "resuming play" procedure if a team(s) isn't ready.

Do me a favor and check under T's and see if there isn't wording similiar to "it is a Technical foul to consume more than one minute following the end of intermission"...we have always handled it that the horns were to signal the end of their warm-up time and then they can huddle briefly and then away we go...

[SmokeEater]

Originally posted by rockyroad
I don't have my rulebooks with me at work today, but unless my memory is really slipping the delay of game rules are a little bit different for the start of the second half than they are for a time-out...doesn't the rule book talk about "consuming more than 1 minute" after the horn to signal the end of half-time? So they get some extra time to break their huddle before we start the second half...a normal time-out situation, they need to be ready on the second horn, but not at intermission...

According to NCAA rules you are correct there is a distinction between the start of a half or extra period and time outs. It is different for NFHS as JR and Bob have said.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by rockyroad

Do me a favor and check under T's and see if there isn't wording similiar to "it is a Technical foul to consume more than one minute following the end of intermission"...we have always handled it that the horns were to signal the end of their warm-up time and then they can huddle briefly and then away we go...

Rocky -- there's wording similar to that regarding staying away from the playing floor during an intermission, as in the locker room. I don't think it applies to huddles in the bench area.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by rockyroad

Do me a favor and check under T's and see if there isn't wording similiar to "it is a Technical foul to consume more than one minute following the end of intermission"...we have always handled it that the horns were to signal the end of their warm-up time and then they can huddle briefly and then away we go...

As Smoke Eater said, you're thinking of the NCAA rule. The FED rule is different, as stated above. Under NFHS, you have to be ready to go on the second horn. Most officials imo will give the teams a few extra seconds and a "hurry up" though. Most, not all- obviously.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by SmokeEater
My rule reference was for NCAA

The original post starting this thread said that this happened during a high school junior varsity game. That's why we've been using NFHS rules.

[SmokeEater]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

The original post starting this thread said that this happened during a high school junior varsity game. That's why we've been using NFHS rules.

Right I have to realize that different areas use different rule sets. In Manitoba we use NCAA for High school, with some conference modifications. Guess it best to specify what rule set we are referencing in the post.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by SmokeEater

Right I have to realize that different areas use different rule sets. In Manitoba we use NCAA for High school, with some conference modifications. Guess it best to specify what rule set we are referencing in the post.

It might make it a little less confusing, but pointing out the difference to a corresponding NCAA rule can't be anything but helpful either. For people using both rulesets, I think it's a worthwhile exercise.