And you just became a better official. :)

[Edited by Nevadaref on Jan 20th, 2006 at 03:06 AM]

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:D

Thank you everyone. I've been working it over in my head since leaving the office and I concur with your explanations.

I did think of one other thing (which is extremely silly, but it could happen, and I'd be suprised if there hasn't ever been a case written about it): Gym or arena with high ceiling - A is ahead by one or two points - A1, in a celebratory display, heaves the ball up into the air after receiving the inbounds pass in A's backcourt - ball is released prior to horn sounding, and subsequently goes through B's basket. No points awarded, I suppose. But I wouldn't want to have to explain it to B's head coach, who would've undoubtedly seen it.

Anyone ever seen or read of anything like that?

Thank you again to everyone for your responses.

Respectfully submitted,

A reading from the book of . . .
 

6-7 NOTE:

"If A1's try or tap is legally touched in flight, the goal counts if made, if the horn sounds before or after the legal touching . . . "

Re: A reading from the book of . . .
 

Exactly. And if it ain't a "try or tap", like...maybe if it's a throw-in instead, then it doesn't count. Which is what everybody has been saying.

Re: Re: A reading from the book of . . .
 

Or a "celebratory toss in the air". - Not a try so no basket.

How do you handle this situation in the casebook? Is it any different?

Look at casebook 5.2.1 Sit (D) this covers throwin after a "T".

That is the objective! Thanks Nevada

That situation is different in that there's no horn going off before the ball went through in that case play, thus making the ball dead. That's exactly why there's </b>no</b> basket in the play that we've been discussing.

It's two completely different situations that are still using the same principle-- i.e. a tipped throw-in is <b>not</b> a tap or try.

Re: Re: A reading from the book of . . .
 

Exactly.

No basket and here is why.

4-41 defines shooting, try or tap for goal. Since B1 deflected an inbounds pass towards A's basket, this does not qualify as a try or tap for goal by B1.

6-7 defines when a ball becomes dead with 6-7-6 becoming the important article (the period ending)

5-1-1 says a goal can only be counted when a live ball enters the goal from above.

So, the ball is dead when the period ends in this case and since the ball did not enter the basket before the end of the period, no basket is counted, even though the ball went through the goal after the horn ending the period.

If it went into the home team's basket, you better run like hell after canceling it. Nobody in the gym is going to like it.

Thanks, J. Ref.

Thanks, JRef

True, true, true.

This is all buried so deep down in the rulebook, I guarantee a reaction of epic proportions.

Can you imagine the reaction waving this off?