You did not offend me. I just think you do not have perspective on what these games really are. They are not about you and what you think about the officials. These games are about the KIDS!!! If the officials screwed up, so freaking what. It is a 4TH GRADE SCHOOL GAME!!! Your kid might not be good enough to play when she gets to 6th grade.

Peace

Hey Mark, I think she's angry at you.

I can't tell what she thinks about me though...think she likes me?

This is a 4th grade game, is it really worth getting this worked up about? Yes, everyone likes to win, but again IT IS A 4TH GRADE GAME! You're talking about sending in tapes and such? Relax, move on. If someone was physically hurt it might and I stress might be worth the trouble, but it doesn't seem that anyone was. This forum is not a place for us to offend, but it is a place where we discuss rules, game situations, and other topics directly related to officiating. If you have a legitimate QUESTION please come back and we'll be happy to enlighten you as to what may have happenend (MTD is excellent with rules questions by they way), but if you're venting, this is not the place.

Dan_ref
I think she hates us all. I think she hates us because we are officials. I don't care if those people hate me. I think Mark and her should go one on one in a rules test and see who knows more about reffing. I bet this "mom" gets nothing right.

Your son/daughter, whatever he/she is, I didn't read it, isn't even going to remember this game when she is older. Stop fretting so much about the officials. If you think the officials were so bad why don't you become an official, take over the officiating program of the league your son/daughter works so you can fix it and there can never be complaints ever again.

Tough to say Dan. Worked any 4-6 4th grade games with a bad scorers table lately?

Junker I work with them alot, little 5th grade kids. Its easy you keep track of the possession arrow. and at this level of the game its not that hard to remeber the score. Their you go you can get thru this game with out them. I still think that this " mom" needs to get real.

Nope.

I worked some 4th grade scrimmages this year, hoping to move up next year from 2nd & 3rd grade games.

There probably is no organization to send a tape to. My state has the largest Grammar school Athletic Association in the country called the IESA (that is what they say). Even this organization does not cover every school in every part of the state. I find the whole thing funny and ridiculous. One day parents will realize there was a time when kids played sports because it was fun. Not because their life would change based on what happen in 4th grade.

Peace

Please keep in mind I NEVER said I knew more than the officals. Nor did I say I wanted to put on a whistle and pledge to this "black and white code of honor" that you all belong to. I didnt know that officating at a 4th grade game was so degrading to most of you.

Momstwo: Wait a second if you don't know more about reffing then those guys out their, then how can you say they did a bad job????????????
Mrs. You really don't make much sense

Mom- I would take the game tape to the local tv station. Maybe they could do an under cover report. "The Fix is On- Officials So Bad They Cost 4th Graders Game" or "Officials Screw 4th Graders Out Of DI Scholarships" on the next Maury.

Wait a second here sweetheart.

No one said working these games is degrading.

I'm starting to think you're a troll...but if you're not, good luck to you & the kid.

tweet!! full time out requested.

momstwo: refs "bad"

officials: Thank you

back to your regular scheduled forum.

The reality is 4th grade is for officials that are just starting out. Most people that officiate want to work HS and/or college ball at some point. Usually the better officials leave this level behind because of parents like you complaining about things that you know nothing about. Parents acting as if these games are going to be life changing events and every call are going to change every game a lot of officials just decide to pass. These games can be a lot of fun if parents and coaches take the games for what they are. Many of these kids will be burned out by the HS years from any sports because their parents think they are grooming the next Michael Jordan or Candace Parker.

Peace