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B1 and B2 grab a loose ball and each are holding on to the ball. Partner whistles for a traveling violation. B coach realizes this is not a travel and looks to me. I was quite sure (but not 100%) it was not a travel either but deferred to my partner who had more experience than me.
Talked to partner at first break after that and told him I didn't think it was a travel. He indicated he had been advised on this very issue by clinicians to call this a travel. Something about 4 points on the floor equaled a travel. I got home, looked at the case book, and it seems 4.44.2b fits my case to not call a travel. Two questions. What should I have done about the initial call given my uncertainty? And 2, what should I have called had it happened again that game? I wouldn't want to be inconsistent. |
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Nothing.
One of these days officials are going to have to realize you are not going to be able to change every call you do not agree with. Peace
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You do nothing on the initial call....you can't do anything. If your partner calls a shooting foul and you think its a clean block, you can't do anything, so why is this any different?
As for your call and being consistant, call your game. Two wrongs usually DON'T make a right. Usually. |
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If they count the basket on a backboard slap. Are you going to stand by and let them? If they call 3 seconds on a throwin? Will you let them? If they call a blocking foul on #2 who was standing in front of you, 10' from any opponent, will you let them? If they call a 10 second backcourt violation after the team had it in the backcourt for 9 seconds, took a timeout, then threw it in and held it for only 1 second, will you let them? [Edited by Camron Rust on Jan 8th, 2006 at 07:51 PM]
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Either way every call cannot be up for debate. A travel call is made for all kinds of reasons and I do not know how any official is going to read the mind of their partner's mind. Remember he did not know why the official made the call until much later.
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If the coach asks your partner for an explanation, and you hear him say the 4-points BS, then speak to your partner and explain your understanding of the rule. If you're 110% sure of the rule, tell your partner that. |
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One possession this time with potential for more occurances. I agree to keep calling your game and let your partner deal with his call. Nothing should be done about that call, except what you already did, you discussed it during a break or after the game.
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