Jab by the defender on the jump shooter (non-contact)

[Jimgolf]

Originally posted by SmokeEater
IMO, it would depend on the discreation of the official

Now there's a severe penalty!

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by Jimgolf

Now there's a severe penalty!

That penalty would have to come from the assignor, or somebody with almost as much power. . .

[mick]

Originally posted by ChuckElias

That penalty would have to come from the assignor, or somebody with almost as much power. . .

[assignmentmaker]

Nobody (a quick inspection shows) has mentioned an allied, and in my opinion more serious behavior, a staple of the playground, ducking the head and running at - but ultimately avoiding - the shooter. I will warn on the first drive-by. If the kid does it again, it's a T - if for nothing else unsportsmanlike conduct: not heeding my gracious warning.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by assignmentmaker
Nobody (a quick inspection shows) has mentioned an allied, and in my opinion more serious behavior, a staple of the playground, ducking the head and running at - but ultimately avoiding - the shooter. I will warn on the first drive-by. If the kid does it again, it's a T - if for nothing else unsportsmanlike conduct: not heeding my gracious warning.

Why aren't I surprised....

[carldog]

A 'T' for ducking the head and running at a shooter? Bad defense and a bad call.

Would you care to explain your reference to this move as a "drive-by" ? Just what does that imply?

Just make the obvious calls, Ref.

[mick]

Originally posted by assignmentmaker
Nobody (a quick inspection shows) has mentioned an allied, and in my opinion more serious behavior, a staple of the playground, ducking the head and running at - but ultimately avoiding - the shooter. I will warn on the first drive-by. If the kid does it again, it's a T - if for nothing else unsportsmanlike conduct: not heeding my gracious warning.

Nope, and I don't think anybody will want to screw up that fast break on the rebound.
mick

[assignmentmaker]

Originally posted by carldog
A 'T' for ducking the head and running at a shooter? Bad defense and a bad call.

Would you care to explain your reference to this move as a "drive-by" ? Just what does that imply?

Just make the obvious calls, Ref.

It has nothing to do with playing the game. It's like kicking at a player as he dribbles by and not making contact. Did something happen? Sure it did.

"Just make the obvious calls, Ref."

[jeffpea]

This is such a "juvenile" move I can't believe we're spending so much time trying to figure out how to handle it.

Simply tell the kid to knock it off - "otherwise I'll tell your mommy on you"..........one childish act deserves another...

Seriously, just hit the kid with a foul or two on the next few possessions when he actually touches somebody and the coach will sit him down or he'll get the message.

[tlynch]

Unsportsmanlike conduct is behavior or an act that is unbecoming to a fair,
ethical and honorable individual.

I do not see how anyone can think that attempting to distracting a shooter by faking harmful contact is not unsportsmanlike conduct. It is not ethical, fair, or honorable to distract a player in the act of shooting by pretending to harm them.

For a minor violation I would agree that a warning might be well suited for a first time offense, but calling a T is not beyond the intention of the rules.

[JugglingReferee]

Thread resurrected after 3+ years!

[canuckrefguy]

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

Thread resurrected after 3 years!

It's Lent.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tlynch

I do not see how anyone can think that attempting to distracting a shooter by faking harmful contact is not unsportsmanlike conduct. It is not ethical, fair, or honorable to distract a player in the act of shooting by pretending to harm them.

I have a feeling that in 3 years some of these people might have changed their mind.

Peace

[just another ref]

I would think that for the most part this would be a non-issue. The shooter is concentrating on the rim, not the defender. The shooter expects to have a defender come flying at him, and the difference to that shooter in a legitimate block attempt and some kind of weird unsportsmanlike distraction attempt would probably most often not be noticed.