Are Coach's Tested?

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally posted by RefNVa
During my first coaches pre-game I asked if they had any questions...

Big Mistake.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by tjones1
I believe in IL the (varsity) coaches are only required to attend the rules interp.

Any coach can attend a rules meeting. All that is required is a representative is supposed to attend a rules meeting every year or suffer some consequences by either being put on probations or possibly suspended from post season (I do not know the process, I just know there are consequences). Technically there does not have to be a coach that attends the rules meetings. It could be an AD. Usually the schools send the Freshman B coach that has never coached a day in his life and reports (supposed to) to the school what they heard. Many times they never say anything to the varsity coaches because when either my partners or I make a call based on a new rule it is not unusual for the coach to say, "I did not hear of that."

Peace

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally posted by IREFU2

In Va, It think they are only required to be at a mandatory VHSL clinic. I dont know if they are required to take a test or not. Of course, thats a 2 edge sword!

Where in Virginia do you officiate???

[Nate1224hoops]

Originally posted by JRutledge

I think this depends on where you live. I know a basketball official in my area that is also teacher and coaches the tennis teams at his school. One tennis team plays is during the fall the other team plays during the spring. He said he gets paid $6000 each season ($12,000 a year). Tennis is also not a revenue sport and does not make money. He said that basketball coach gets paid a lot more than he does. I know I do not make $6000 a season working basketball. I am sure there are coaches that might make around $10,000-$15,000 depending on the school district. I am sure it varies a lot, but $2500 is low.

Peace

Wow...I coach on the JV level and make a whopping 5% of my salary....ends up being about 2000. I had open gym this season from early October to November 14, 2 days a week. Then season goes from Nov.14 to Feb. 8. Thats a lot of work for $2000. I definetly do it for the love of the kids and the game.

[tjones1]

Originally posted by JRutledge

Any coach can attend a rules meeting. All that is required is a representative is supposed to attend a rules meeting every year or suffer some consequences by either being put on probations or possibly suspended from post season (I do not know the process, I just know there are consequences). Technically there does not have to be a coach that attends the rules meetings. It could be an AD. Usually the schools send the Freshman B coach that has never coached a day in his life and reports (supposed to) to the school what they heard. Many times they never say anything to the varsity coaches because when either my partners or I make a call based on a new rule it is not unusual for the coach to say, "I did not hear of that."

Peace

Thanks JRut for filling my gaps in. Around here, most of the varsity coaches are in attendence. But, I highly doubt they pay that much attention, they are just there to be there and fill out their attendence form.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by tjones1


Thanks JRut for filling my gaps in. Around here, most of the varsity coaches are in attendence. But, I highly doubt they pay that much attention, they are just there to be there and fill out their attendence form.

A lot of the good varsity coaches attend the rules meetings in my area. There are just more varsity coaches that do not. I would think all coaches would want to attend those meetings, but I wish I had a penny for every time a coach said, "I never heard of that rule," even when the rule is was the main thing talked about at these meetings.

I thought coaches would be clueless about the team control foul and the coaching box, but the word must have gotten out better this year.

Peace

[PGCougar]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Naw, I can't agree with that at all. The better coaches that I have seen have over the years all made a conscious effort to know and understand the rules. They want to teach their kids to play within the rules and to also avoid uneccessary turnovers and fouls. It's to their advantage to do so.

I tend to agree that the better coaches do have a pretty good grasp of the rules. I know it makes me more effective as a coach. Although knowledge of the rules doesn't cure "coaching eyesight." Most of my questions now revolve around what was seen.

My good friend who officiates some college level games as well as a lot of High School games has now elevated me to the status of "Pain in the a$$", which is a big promotion from "Ignorant pain in the a$$." Actually, I've gotten very polite in the last ten or so years since I decided to get a good grip on the rules.

Oddly enough, if you ask the officials 'round here which games they want to work, almost all will steer clear of games in which the coaches are also known officials. Why is that?

[26 Year Gap]

Originally posted by PGCougar

I tend to agree that the better coaches do have a pretty good grasp of the rules. I know it makes me more effective as a coach. Although knowledge of the rules doesn't cure "coaching eyesight." Most of my questions now revolve around what was seen.

My good friend who officiates some college level games as well as a lot of High School games has now elevated me to the status of "Pain in the a$$", which is a big promotion from "Ignorant pain in the a$$." Actually, I've gotten very polite in the last ten or so years since I decided to get a good grip on the rules.

Oddly enough, if you ask the officials 'round here which games they want to work, almost all will steer clear of games in which the coaches are also known officials. Why is that?

Because NOW they have the best vantage point to see all the calls that should or should not be made.

[dblref]

Originally posted by IREFU2

In Va, It think they are only required to be at a mandatory VHSL clinic. I dont know if they are required to take a test or not. Of course, thats a 2 edge sword!

According to an individual from the VHSL office, the only requirement is for "someone" from the school to attend the clinic. It isn't required that each and every coach attend and actually doesn't have to be the coach. I think this usually falls to the most junior coach.

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally posted by dblref

According to an individual from the VHSL office, the only requirement is for "someone" from the school to attend the clinic. It isn't required that each and every coach attend and actually doesn't have to be the coach. I think this usually falls to the most junior coach.

That's because the "Senior" coaches ALREADY know the rules.

[tjones1]

Originally posted by ChrisSportsFan

That's because the "Senior" coaches ALREADY know the rules.

Good one!