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chrs_schuster Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:17am

Ok Fellas, I am a second year ref, and I'm not sure what a more experienced ref would have done so here goes. I'm trail official in a girls JV game. Late 4th quarter about 1:30 left on the clock. Score tied. I call travel on home team in there frontcourt. As I'm making my travel signal, I see head coach for home team ( a woman and an official too) flipping me off with her arms. She then mouthed F##K OFF!! to me. I immediately T,d her in a crucial part of the game. So I told she had lost her coaching box privileges. As the rest of the game was going on I noticed her getting up out of her seat. My partner and I both told her to sit down. They lost the game in overtime, but I was just wondering if you guys would have handled it different? thanks

tjones1 Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:30am

For me, early exit for that coach. See ya!

RefNVa Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:33am

I would have tossed her, post haste! Once you let her get by with that your control of the game was nonexistent. After I filed my game report for the ejection she would have had a lot of explaining to do to her AD/Principal and if she coached within our area she would have been suspended.

JRutledge Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:13pm

I have no problem if you gave her the hook.

Peace

blindzebra Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:43pm

That's a flagrant act and an ejection.

Plus why would you and your partner both tell her to sit down?

IMO, she should have been tossed twice.

Kelvin green Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:46pm

#$%^ off and flipping you would have been flagarant in my book and tossed her on the first. I would not have worried about the second

Mark Padgett Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:54pm

"When in doubt, throw 'em out!"

Why in the world would you think you could let a coach stay on this planet after saying that to you? Not only that - you said she was an OFFICIAL!!!!! That is wrong on so many levels.

I can think of at least two organizations to which she needs to be reported.

Rich Sun Dec 11, 2005 01:03pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Kelvin green
#$%^ off and flipping you would have been flagarant in my book and tossed her on the first. I would not have worried about the second
I would've called two distinct Ts, though. Shooting four is more appropriate here than just shooting two.

I can't imagine NOT giving her the hook on this.

Texas Aggie Sun Dec 11, 2005 01:21pm

Eject after the gesture and words. No real thought involved, to be honest. This is high school, not college, and that action is not to be tolerated.

This is something that would cause someone to lose their coaching privileges, if not their job, imo.

ChrisSportsFan Sun Dec 11, 2005 01:25pm

It's a little late to T her again now and depending on when the game was, it might not be to late to make sure that report to the state office is very detailed. They can and will deal with it appropriatly.

ronny mulkey Sun Dec 11, 2005 01:42pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Texas Aggie
Eject after the gesture and words. No real thought involved, to be honest. This is high school, not college, and that action is not to be tolerated.

This is something that would cause someone to lose their coaching privileges, if not their job, imo.

Aggie,

Are you implying that you tolerate this kinda behavior in your college games?

Mulk

zebraman Sun Dec 11, 2005 02:29pm

She's gone. In a perfect world, your partner would see it (protecting your partner) and send her packing instead of you.

Z

chrs_schuster Sun Dec 11, 2005 04:15pm

I agree but...
 
I hear your words!!!!but.... as a second year official, my partner as well. Never been in that predicetment before, I have only Td one head coach before in my first year. So I guess I was a little hesitant to throw the coach out not knowing if it was the correct call to just T or throw out. Im not backpeddling, all I can say is that it wolnt happen again. By the way the AD contacted me for a statement. Thanks again for the input

chrs_schuster Sun Dec 11, 2005 04:20pm

great quote!!!
 
Mr. Padgett, great quote, I will try to live by this rule on the court!! Thanks again!!!

ChuckElias Sun Dec 11, 2005 04:48pm

In the immortal words of Total B@stard Airlines, "Buh-bye!"

Unfortunately, I couldn't find a picture of David Spade and Helen Hunt doing this skit. Maybe Dan will be able to dig one up.


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