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Old Thu Nov 24, 2005, 10:47pm
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Re: What level of play?

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Jr.High??
H.S. Sub-varsity??
Varsity??

I would most likely hit the whistle and re-administer the throw-in, especially at the lower levels.

Boys varsity.
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 03:13am
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 06:07pm
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Sounds like the perfect opportunity to VERBALL instruct the players (when he's standing there with the ball waiting). A firm "Lets Go" might stop phase 1 of your delima.

If you started your count and they threw the ball to you - why restart again? I'm thinking it deflects where ever and you keep counting.
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 08:37pm
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I hit 2 on my count as the intended thrower gets there and gets a pass directly into his feet, and the ball goes to the wall a good 15 feet away.

Instinctively I suspended my count until the kid retrieved the ball and picked it back up at 3.
....
Serious T-day indigestion is at stake.
blindzebra,
I would have continued the count so I was not rewarding a stoopid player with the advantage. That's an intent of the rule, I think, to deny a team from using up time [while leading]. The game clock was ticking, wasn't it? The losing team didn't like that, did they?

QED, no indigestion.
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 09:19pm
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Originally posted by blindzebra
I hit 2 on my count as the intended thrower gets there and gets a pass directly into his feet, and the ball goes to the wall a good 15 feet away.

Instinctively I suspended my count until the kid retrieved the ball and picked it back up at 3.
....
Serious T-day indigestion is at stake.
blindzebra,
I would have continued the count so I was not rewarding a stoopid player with the advantage. That's an intent of the rule, I think, to deny a team from using up time [while leading]. The game clock was ticking, wasn't it? The losing team didn't like that, did they?

QED, no indigestion.
mick

I don't feel I was rewarding a stoopid player that was trying to delay to keep the clock moving.

I had five scrubs...on the team ahead...holding their own against the starters for the other team with a couple of minutes left. I had a couple of kids that did not know what they were supposed to be doing, and an awful pass. Not some devious attempt to run an extra 5 seconds off the game clock.

I forgot to add that the team behind was not even pressing, they had dropped to pick up at half-court and trap.

In reflection, I might have actually made the game closer, because the winning coach put back a couple of starters after a turnover and a 3 point play at the other end with around a minute left.
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 09:43pm
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Originally posted by blindzebra
I hit 2 on my count as the intended thrower gets there and gets a pass directly into his feet, and the ball goes to the wall a good 15 feet away.

Instinctively I suspended my count until the kid retrieved the ball and picked it back up at 3.
....
Serious T-day indigestion is at stake.
blindzebra,
I would have continued the count so I was not rewarding a stoopid player with the advantage. That's an intent of the rule, I think, to deny a team from using up time [while leading]. The game clock was ticking, wasn't it? The losing team didn't like that, did they?

QED, no indigestion.
mick

I don't feel I was rewarding a stoopid player that was trying to delay to keep the clock moving.

I had five scrubs...on the team ahead...holding their own against the starters for the other team with a couple of minutes left. I had a couple of kids that did not know what they were supposed to be doing, and an awful pass. Not some devious attempt to run an extra 5 seconds off the game clock.

I forgot to add that the team behind was not even pressing, they had dropped to pick up at half-court and trap.

In reflection, I might have actually made the game closer, because the winning coach put back a couple of starters after a turnover and a 3 point play at the other end with around a minute left.
Stupid \Stu"pid\, a. [L. stupidus, fr. stupere to be stupefied:
cf. F. stupide.]
1. Very dull; insensible; senseless; wanting in
understanding; heavy; sluggish; in a state of stupor; --
said of persons.
[1913 Webster]


The player was stoopid because his stoopid coach didn't tell him to make the throw in.

The stoopid subs were holding their own because the other team had to play by the rules, while the subs got an unintended advantage.

I certainly don't know if the winning team was up by 10 or up by 99, but whether or not a losing team is pressing or conceeding the rules of timing do not allow 20 seconds for a throw-in and then concession to the complaining coach that he was right.



[Edited by mick on Nov 25th, 2005 at 09:46 PM]
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 09:55pm
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Originally posted by blindzebra
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by blindzebra
I hit 2 on my count as the intended thrower gets there and gets a pass directly into his feet, and the ball goes to the wall a good 15 feet away.

Instinctively I suspended my count until the kid retrieved the ball and picked it back up at 3.
....
Serious T-day indigestion is at stake.
blindzebra,
I would have continued the count so I was not rewarding a stoopid player with the advantage. That's an intent of the rule, I think, to deny a team from using up time [while leading]. The game clock was ticking, wasn't it? The losing team didn't like that, did they?

QED, no indigestion.
mick

I don't feel I was rewarding a stoopid player that was trying to delay to keep the clock moving.

I had five scrubs...on the team ahead...holding their own against the starters for the other team with a couple of minutes left. I had a couple of kids that did not know what they were supposed to be doing, and an awful pass. Not some devious attempt to run an extra 5 seconds off the game clock.

I forgot to add that the team behind was not even pressing, they had dropped to pick up at half-court and trap.

In reflection, I might have actually made the game closer, because the winning coach put back a couple of starters after a turnover and a 3 point play at the other end with around a minute left.
Stupid \Stu"pid\, a. [L. stupidus, fr. stupere to be stupefied:
cf. F. stupide.]
1. Very dull; insensible; senseless; wanting in
understanding; heavy; sluggish; in a state of stupor; --
said of persons.
[1913 Webster]


The player was stoopid because his stoopid coach didn't tell him to make the throw in.

The stoopid subs were holding their own because the other team had to play by the rules, while the subs got an unintended advantage.

I certainly don't know if the winning team was up by 10 or up by 99, but whether or not a losing team is pressing or conceeding the rules of timing do not allow 20 seconds for a throw-in and then concession to the complaining coach that he was right.



[Edited by mick on Nov 25th, 2005 at 09:46 PM]
20 seconds? Playing by the rules?

Really big leap there. Glad you can gather all of that from what has been posted.

I told the coach he was right about the initial player delaying, NOT THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A VIOLATION big difference.

I gather too much turkey ruins comprehension skills?
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 10:10pm
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Originally posted by mick
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Originally posted by mick
Quote:
Originally posted by blindzebra
I hit 2 on my count as the intended thrower gets there and gets a pass directly into his feet, and the ball goes to the wall a good 15 feet away.

Instinctively I suspended my count until the kid retrieved the ball and picked it back up at 3.
....
Serious T-day indigestion is at stake.
blindzebra,
I would have continued the count so I was not rewarding a stoopid player with the advantage. That's an intent of the rule, I think, to deny a team from using up time [while leading]. The game clock was ticking, wasn't it? The losing team didn't like that, did they?

QED, no indigestion.
mick

I don't feel I was rewarding a stoopid player that was trying to delay to keep the clock moving.

I had five scrubs...on the team ahead...holding their own against the starters for the other team with a couple of minutes left. I had a couple of kids that did not know what they were supposed to be doing, and an awful pass. Not some devious attempt to run an extra 5 seconds off the game clock.

I forgot to add that the team behind was not even pressing, they had dropped to pick up at half-court and trap.

In reflection, I might have actually made the game closer, because the winning coach put back a couple of starters after a turnover and a 3 point play at the other end with around a minute left.
Stupid \Stu"pid\, a. [L. stupidus, fr. stupere to be stupefied:
cf. F. stupide.]
1. Very dull; insensible; senseless; wanting in
understanding; heavy; sluggish; in a state of stupor; --
said of persons.
[1913 Webster]


The player was stoopid because his stoopid coach didn't tell him to make the throw in.

The stoopid subs were holding their own because the other team had to play by the rules, while the subs got an unintended advantage.

I certainly don't know if the winning team was up by 10 or up by 99, but whether or not a losing team is pressing or conceeding the rules of timing do not allow 20 seconds for a throw-in and then concession to the complaining coach that he was right.



[Edited by mick on Nov 25th, 2005 at 09:46 PM]
20 seconds? Playing by the rules?

Really big leap there. Glad you can gather all of that from what has been posted.

I told the coach he was right about the initial player delaying, NOT THAT THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A VIOLATION big difference.

I gather too much turkey ruins comprehension skills?
blindzebra,
You didn't give the amount of time that you conceded to the stoopid players, but according to the book there is little difference between 6 seconds or 52 seconds. [I picked 20 merely as an example.] Do you have a time line drawn for that play for your use?

So the other team was not playing by the rules? I just assumed they were. m'bad.
mick
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 10:11pm
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I gather too much turkey ruins comprehension skills?
Nah, maybe Mick's just grumpy from shoveling all that snow U.P. there.
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Old Fri Nov 25, 2005, 10:19pm
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I gather too much turkey ruins comprehension skills?
Nah, maybe Mick's just grumpy from shoveling all that snow U.P. there.
10 more inches the last two days, one broken waterline and lost a set of keys this morning.
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Old Sat Nov 26, 2005, 11:28am
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I hit 2 on my count as the intended thrower gets there and gets a pass directly into his feet, and the ball goes to the wall a good 15 feet away.

Instinctively I suspended my count until the kid retrieved the ball and picked it back up at 3.
....
Serious T-day indigestion is at stake.
blindzebra,
I would have continued the count so I was not rewarding a stoopid player with the advantage. That's an intent of the rule, I think, to deny a team from using up time [while leading]. The game clock was ticking, wasn't it? The losing team didn't like that, did they?

QED, no indigestion.
mick

I agree with you Mick, and I haven't had any snow yet. But I did lose one of those USB memory stick thingies...

Keep counting, give the ball to the other team when you get to 5. Or as Chuck said hit the whistle & restart.

Then neither coach can b1tch (except at their players) and indigestion is avoided.

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