Shoulder Push

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Nate1224hoops
You call it judgement-- I call it subjectivity...Here's the dictionary definition...JUDGEMENT based on individual personal impressions and feelings and opinions rather than external facts.

Your definition is of subjectivity, I think. Is that right?

You're saying that you think of subjectivity as judgment?

So why not call it judgment, which is what 99.9% of referees call it.

The problem I have with your statement, though is that you're saying you think judgment should be based on "impressions, feelings and opinions rather than external facts." I'm saying that judgment in refereeing is based on a very different set of ideas, those being, experience, learning, observation and training.

Here's the dictionary definition of judgment:

judg·ment v
1. The act or process of judging; the formation of an opinion after consideration or deliberation.

n
1. The mental ability to perceive and distinguish relationships; discernment: Fatigue may affect a pilot's judgment of distances.
2. The capacity to form an opinion by distinguishing and evaluating: His judgment of fine music is impeccable.
3. The capacity to assess situations or circumstances and draw sound conclusions; good sense: She showed good judgment in saving her money. See Synonyms at reason.
3. An opinion or estimate formed after consideration or deliberation, especially a formal or authoritative decision: awaited the judgment of the umpire.

Refs shouldn't base their judgment on opinions, feelings and impressions. That's why there's no subjectivity. Their judgment should be based on "consideration, deliberation, distinguishing relationships, discernment, evaluating, assessing, authoritative decision." Do you see the difference?

Nate1224hoops

Well, thats for your advice. Most of you that I have encountered on this site offer good objective responses. However, I have a differing opinion on this issue and dont think that my opionion should subject me to criticism that I am receiving. Thanks again for your help, I wont be back to bother again.

Too bad, you could be a great ref someday, if you get some training and a good mentor. Working strictly from your own opinions, however, won't get you very far.

[Edited by rainmaker on Oct 27th, 2005 at 04:17 PM]