Shoulder Push

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by Nate1224hoops

On to subjectiviy...you say there is none. Well when was the last time you watched a game and disagreed with a call that was made? If you did disagree, well thats subjectivity.

No it's not subjectivity. It's judgment and perspective. On a topic like travelling, either the pivot foot moved or it didn't. That has nothing to do with subjectivity. It's an absolute. If the foot moved, there's a travel. If the food didn't, there isnt'. Period.

Judgment only comes into play in determining illegal advantage and disadvantage. A hard foul has to be called by the book regardlesso f A/D. That's not a matter of judgment.

Judgment is only an issue on the slight fouls. the borderline hand-checks. The ref must determine whether an advantage was gained illegally, or a disadvantage conferred illegally. THIS IS NOT SUBJECTIVE!! It's the ref learning from her experience, listening, observing, questioning, and practicing how to make the best judgment.

If you haven't been experienceing, listening, observing, questrionsing and practicing for as many years as Dan, and Jurassic, then you really should do more listening and more observing and less arguing, and less self-defending. REpeating yourself over and over isn't a good way to get better.