backcourt violation/ ball oob where?

[number 26]

hello
quick, easy one
happened in my team's game yesterday
ball in front court.
pass from a1 to a2, from the corner to up by the free throw line, is thrown over his head, with no one else touching it.
ball bounces into back court. a2 chases.
question concerns ball oob to team b.
where is the ball placed if:
a) a2 catches up to the ball in his back court, just before it was to go out of bounds, under his basket.
or b) a2 decides not to grab the ball at that point and it bounces oob, untouched.
as always, thanks.

[Dan_ref]

If I understand what you're asking then in the first
case, where we have a backcourt violation, the throw
in is at the spot closest to where the ball is touched.
In the second case, where the ball rolls OOB without
being touched (or even touched by a member of B), the
throw in is at the spot where it went OOB.

[number 26]

in both cases, ball inbound for team b deep in its front court?
what i was searching for, was a situation where team b would have to inbound in its own back court.
farther to go, if time is a concern.
it seems it does not matter either way
thanks

[Dan_ref]

I can't think of a reason why the ball would ever be
inbounded in B's back court. Maybe at the mid court
line, but never the back court.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by number 26
in both cases, ball inbound for team b deep in its front court?
what i was searching for, was a situation where team b would have to inbound in its own back court.
farther to go, if time is a concern.
it seems it does not matter either way
thanks

The violation occurs when A2 touches the ball in A's backcourt. Therefore, the ball is inbounded at the spot neareast to where the violation occurred. Therefore, B will never inbound the ball in their own backcourt if A is called for a BC violation.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by number 26

where is the ball placed if:
a) a2 catches up to the ball in his back court, just before it was to go out of bounds, under his basket.

And, of course, you would not let team B inbound directly under their own basket, but would move the inbound spot outside the lane.

[Richard Ogg]

As described, the inbound is nearest the point where A touched it, except not inbounding the paint. Others explained this already.

The only time I can think of when the ball will be brought back is if it was an inbound pass that went OOB without ever being touched. Then it comes back to the original inbound spot. Remember though if the inbound pass goes over A2's head into the back court without being touched, A2 can chase it down without a back-court violation.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by Richard Ogg
Remember though if the inbound pass goes over A2's head into the back court without being touched, A2 can chase it down without a back-court violation.

Ah, but does whether he touches it or not have any bearing?

A1, on his baseline, throws the ball to A2, who touches the ball in the FC. He chases the ball down in his BC. Legal?

[Richard Ogg]

Originally posted by BktBallRef

Ah, but does whether he touches it or not have any bearing?

A1, on his baseline, throws the ball to A2, who touches the ball in the FC. He chases the ball down in his BC. Legal?

Yes, it makes a difference on an inbound if A2 touches the ball. In either case there is no back court. ("Touching" is not control, so there is still no team control, thus no BC.) If A2 touches the ball but it continues to go OOB, then B will inbound the ball where it went out. If the ball is not touched, then B will inbound the ball from where A1 attempted to inbound it.

Number 26 said: "what i was searching for, was a situation where team b would have to inbound in its own back court." That was the question I was attempting to address.

[BktBallRef]

Sorry. The statement that you posted made it sound like A2 couldn't retrieve the ball if he touched it and then it went into the BC.