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Player A1, who is holding a live ball inbounds, touches a coach or official who is standing OOB. Legal? Violation?

(I know I'm recycling, but I thought it was worth asking again.)
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Old Wed Oct 05, 2005, 09:18am
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should be violation oob right?? rule 7-1 player out of bounds when touches the floor or any other person or any object outside the boundary... am i missing something
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Player A1, who is holding a live ball inbounds, touches a coach or official who is standing OOB. Legal? Violation?

(I know I'm recycling, but I thought it was worth asking again.)
This is one I actually know. However, in a small way I disagree with the casebook. It says specifically people are not considered objects, and to be considered OOB the ball or player must touch the floor or some object. So, therefore as long as the touching was inadvertant and there is no advantage gained, there is no violation.

But, I've always considered coaches objects...
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should be violation oob right?? rule 7-1 player out of bounds when touches the floor or any other person or any object outside the boundary... am i missing something
Yes.
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Player A1, who is holding a live ball inbounds, touches a coach or official who is standing OOB. Legal? Violation?

(I know I'm recycling, but I thought it was worth asking again.)
This is one I actually know. However, in a small way I disagree with the casebook. It says specifically people are not considered objects, and to be considered OOB the ball or player must touch the floor or some object. So, therefore as long as the touching was inadvertant and there is no advantage gained, there is no violation.

But, I've always considered coaches objects...
With a little more work, they may not object as much.
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Old Wed Oct 05, 2005, 10:01am
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guess i shouldn't combine art 1 and 2... 2 is for the ball touching a person...1 is for player touching OBJECT...so it is legal because people are not considered objects...Like mick said!!
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Old Wed Oct 05, 2005, 10:21am
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Player A1, who is holding a live ball inbounds, touches a coach or official who is standing OOB. Legal? Violation?

(I know I'm recycling, but I thought it was worth asking again.)
Didn't this just change in the past year or two?

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Old Wed Oct 05, 2005, 10:44am
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Player A1, who is holding a live ball inbounds, touches a coach or official who is standing OOB. Legal? Violation?

(I know I'm recycling, but I thought it was worth asking again.)
Didn't this just change in the past year or two?
It was clarified something like:
  • 2003-04 any object other than player
  • 2004-05 any object other than player, photographer, coach, official; ...people are not objects.
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    Old Wed Oct 05, 2005, 10:59am
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    ...people are not objects.
    Don't tell my wife this; I keep telling her she's the object of my affection...
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    Didn't this just change in the past year or two?
    Yes. I was looking through old threads and found this one, started by JR last year, right around this time: http://officialforum.com/thread/16181
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    Old Wed Oct 05, 2005, 02:20pm
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    as a matter of fact, Referee Magazine had the wrong answer to this exact sitch in their "Test Yourself" section in the August issue; haven't seen a correction from them yet
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