The Test

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by assignmentmaker

"Could you produce one court case dealing specifically with the internet that would make it illegal for people on the internet to discuss this test or copyrighted material?"


It depends on what you mean by 'discuss'. If you quote some (small) element of copyrighted material as part of a review or for teaching purposes, among other things, that may be alright. If you provide entire questions and answers, that may not be alright.

Brad Templeton (http://www.templetons.com/brad/copymyths.html) notes: "Fair use is a complex doctrine meant to allow certain valuable social purposes. Ask yourself why you are republishing what you are posting and why you couldn't have just rewritten it in your own words."

If you reproduce the Fed test and the answers here in this forum, I'll be glad to forward it to the them for you.

Who said anything about reproducing the test and the answers? I know I would never copy the test a post the answers here or any place. That would be tedious and silly. I might post my answers and see what others think about them. I am still trying to figure out what any of this has to do with copyright law? If someone posts only the answers, I am not sure that would be a violation of any law. It might be considered cheating on the test in some jurisdictions, but not violating any law.

Oh well, I guess you cannot really answer the question. So it is time to move on.

Peace

[stripes]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Stripes, I understand you perfectly now.



I doubt it; you don't know me.

I was always taught that we have chosen an avocation that is based on integrity. If we donÂ’t have integrity, we are not worth a thing. We penalize coaches and players who even question our integrity. I happen to believe that this is a trait that we need in our lives.

Are there people out there without pure motives and who will use others for their personal gain.

Sure.

Maybe I am naive, but I believe that people who know correct principles can govern their own actions, especially in the world of officiating. I know of many legitimate uses of the answers. Does a chance exist for the misuse of the information? Absolutely, but I have chosen to live my
life in a manner that places trust and confidence in other people, especially in my avocation. We have to trust our partners and others throughout our lives.

I hope you can find a way to trust your partners, because based on your reactions to a few written lines, I have my doubts about that.

I am also done with this thread.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally posted by stripes
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I hope you can find a way to trust your partners, because based on your reactions to a few written lines, I have my doubts about that.

[/B][/QUOTE]I trust my partners.

I also would never work with a partner that would give out exam answers before that exam was written. That is one partner that I just couldn't trust.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
I trust my partners.

I also would never work with a partner that would give out exam answers before that exam was written. That is one partner that I just couldn't trust.

How would you know?

Peace

[David B]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by assignmentmaker
QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge
Copywritten material?



Yes. It says "Copyrighted and Published in 2005 by the National Federation of State High School Associations." It's property.


I would doubt seriously that FED would go to the trouble to pay the copyright fees just for a simply test.

If they do, that's great, but I would assume (maybe erroneously) that someone just added that onto the paper work - that's easy to do.

Its too much trouble to get things copyright protected etc.,

And what are they copyright protecting? Questions that are often misworded or poorly worded?

And then to have to pay lawyers to go to court to sue someone over putting a few questions about the rules on the web??

Don't think so.

And I haven't checked in a while, but FED was in the process of even putting their rule books online on their website during the summer.

Thanks
David

[Camron Rust]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by David B

Originally posted by assignmentmaker
QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge
Copywritten material?

Yes. It says "Copyrighted and Published in 2005 by the National Federation of State High School Associations." It's property.


I would doubt seriously that FED would go to the trouble to pay the copyright fees just for a simply test.

If they do, that's great, but I would assume (maybe erroneously) that someone just added that onto the paper work - that's easy to do.

Its too much trouble to get things copyright protected etc.,

And what are they copyright protecting? Questions that are often misworded or poorly worded?

And then to have to pay lawyers to go to court to sue someone over putting a few questions about the rules on the web??

Don't think so.

You don't have to pay fees to be copyrighted. Simply publishing and noting the you own the copyright is all that is required.

They place it there so others can't take the tests and make a profit without their approval....I'd be certain that the ARS CD's are made with a licensing fee.

[David B]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Camron Rust

Originally posted by David B

You don't have to pay fees to be copyrighted. Simply publishing and noting the you own the copyright is all that is required.

They place it there so others can't take the tests and make a profit without their approval....I'd be certain that the ARS CD's are made with a licensing fee.

My experience is only with music and there is a copyright fee for music. Maybe its different for simply putting out a document - I'll check with my copyist to see.

Thanks
David

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by David B


My experience is only with music and there is a copyright fee for music. Maybe its different for simply putting out a document - I'll check with my copyist to see.

Thanks
David

A work is under the protection of copyright the moment is it painted, recorded, written, etc. You can't sue until you have registered but you own the rights in any case. The registration is something that can be used to prove ownership if someone else claims to have created the work.

See http://www.publaw.com/cfaqs.html for more info.

[David B]

Originally posted by Camron Rust

A work is under the protection of copyright the moment is it painted, recorded, written, etc. You can't sue until you have registered but you own the rights in any case. The registration is something that can be used to prove ownership if someone else claims to have created the work.

See http://www.publaw.com/cfaqs.html for more info.

However, that is only is effective once you have obtained the copyright which does cost you a fee (nominal)

I just don't see FED going to that trouble for a simple test that anyone could write.

But, we are talking about FED here so ...

Thanks anyway
David