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Dan_ref Fri Sep 16, 2005 01:52pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
This place is about opinions and nothing else for the most part. Unless you have a rule or interpretation, all we ever talk about is opinions. Even in those discussions about rules or interpretations we give out opinion. I am not sure what we all expect from each other.

Peace

Off the top of my head...

I expect Mick to give me construction advice.

I expect JR to scour the internet & send me useful links.

I expect Chuck to provide me with hours of amusement by just being himself, only occasinally annoying me with his grammatical corrections.

I expect MTD to keep the sacred shrine to J Dallas Shirley in his attic free of cobwebs & dust.

...others are invited to add to the list.

azbigdawg Fri Sep 16, 2005 02:13pm

Jurassic..at NO time did I tell you that you had to adhere to my opinion, so Ill accept your apology for that statement, and Ill put it in terms that you will be able to DISCUSS rather than ATTACK. I PERSONALLY cannot STAND "the N word" but it is NOT up to ME entirely as to how its accepted on the court because MY standards are NOT the only ones that are in the decision making process. Example..this fall at our football meeting we were told that "the N word" used between teammates WILL BE a flag, but no ejection. If it (or any other slur) is used AT AN OPPONENT, it is a flag and an EJECTION. Do I AGREE with that decision (not really), will I abide by it? Yes. THAT IS ALL IM SAYING..SOMETIMES YOU ARE FORCED TO PUT ASIDE YOUR PERSONAL PREFERENCE IN THAT PROCESS..other times you have leeway. Most of us come from different backgrounds, but all of us need to realize that OURS may not always matter.

I will repeat something I mentioned earlier. This is NOT the first time this topic has come up..why are some people ATTACKING rather than discussing? it always seems to be the same crowd..deeper issues?

rockyroad Fri Sep 16, 2005 02:15pm

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
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Off the top of my head...

I expect Mick to give me construction advice.

I expect JR to scour the internet & send me useful links.

I expect Chuck to provide me with hours of amusement by just being himself, only occasinally annoying me with his grammatical corrections.

I expect MTD to keep the sacred shrine to J Dallas Shirley in his attic free of cobwebs & dust.

...others are invited to add to the list.
[/B]
I expect Rainmaker to ask questions that make me have to think way too hard...

I expect JR to post disgusting pictures of Chuck (and sometimes of me)...

I expect Dan to post something about those damn Yankees every now and then...

I expect about every 5th thread to actually be about basketball rules/interpretations...

Jurassic Referee Fri Sep 16, 2005 03:15pm

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Originally posted by azbigdawg
1) Jurassic..at NO time did I tell you that you had to adhere to my opinion, so Ill accept your apology for that statement, and Ill put it in terms that you will be able to DISCUSS rather than ATTACK.

2)it always seems to be the same crowd..deeper issues?

1)I do not intend to apologize or discuss anything with you at any time.

2) Deeper issues? Now there's a very familiar tactic that's already been used on this board. If someone disagrees with you, they must be a racist. *****

[Edited by mick on Sep 16th, 2005 at 04:52 PM]

azbigdawg Fri Sep 16, 2005 05:40pm

Nope not saying that at all..Im saying that for whatever reason you chose to misinterpret my post...thats all..but hey..thats your right

JRutledge Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:33am

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Quote:

Originally posted by azbigdawg
1) Jurassic..at NO time did I tell you that you had to adhere to my opinion, so Ill accept your apology for that statement, and Ill put it in terms that you will be able to DISCUSS rather than ATTACK.

2)it always seems to be the same crowd..deeper issues?

1)I do not intend to apologize or discuss anything with you at any time.

2) Deeper issues? Now there's a very familiar tactic that's already been used on this board. If someone disagrees with you, they must be a racist. *****

[Edited by mick on Sep 16th, 2005 at 04:52 PM]

Racist? That is not what I took out of your exchanges with azbigdawg.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Sat Sep 17, 2005 03:15am

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Originally posted by JRutledge
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
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Originally posted by azbigdawg
1) Jurassic..at NO time did I tell you that you had to adhere to my opinion, so Ill accept your apology for that statement, and Ill put it in terms that you will be able to DISCUSS rather than ATTACK.

2)it always seems to be the same crowd..<font color = red>deeper issues?</font>

1)I do not intend to apologize or discuss anything with you at any time.

2) Deeper issues? Now there's a very familiar tactic that's already been used on this board. If someone disagrees with you, they must be a racist. *****


Racist? That is not what I took out of your exchanges with azbigdawg.


<b>"deeper issues"?</b>???

I recognize and understand code words too.

azbigdawg Sun Sep 18, 2005 04:34pm

Sorry Jurassic, wrong again..the DEEPER issues I was refering to was the inability to discuss without attacking....hard to learn that way...and if you think youre too smart to learn, youre probably too dumb to live...

Jurassic Referee Sun Sep 18, 2005 04:41pm

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Originally posted by azbigdawg
Sorry Jurassic, wrong again..the DEEPER issues I was refering to was the inability to discuss without attacking....hard to learn that way...and if you think youre too smart to learn, youre probably too dumb to live...
Bullsh*t. Go play the race card on someone else.I have no use for people like you.

JRutledge Sun Sep 18, 2005 06:16pm

JR only person playing the "race card" is you right now.

I am also will never understand what is also so wrong with mentioning race other than it makes people uncomfortable. I guess you cannot have those kinds of conversations when "certain" people cannot deal with the conversation. No that "certain" people comment is not about a group of people. I just do not feel anything should be off base because a few individuals cannot handle the discussion. If you do not like the discussion, do not participate.

Peace

Jurassic Referee Sun Sep 18, 2005 07:00pm

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Originally posted by JRutledge
JR only person playing the "race card" is you right now.

I am also will never understand what is also so wrong with mentioning race other than it makes people uncomfortable. I guess you cannot have those kinds of conversations when "certain" people cannot deal with the conversation. No that "certain" people comment is not about a group of people. I just do not feel anything should be off base because a few individuals cannot handle the discussion. If you do not like the discussion, do not participate.

Peace

"Certain people" = "it always seems to be the same crowd-<b>deeper issues?</b>" = "a <b>few</b> individuals cannot handle the discussion".

You and arizbigdawg are two of a kind. You pulled the race card out on me months ago and you've also pulled it out on more than a few people here. You just pulled it out again with your "a few individuals cannot handle the discussion" comment. Pulling out the race card is the easiest thing in the world to do when someone disagrees with you. It's also impossible to defend against it. I won't try.

I haven't been responding directly to your posts for months and I don't really know why I responded to this one. I'll try not to make the same mistake again. I will continue to participate in this forum and any discussion that I feel like. I will not continue to participate directly with you and people like you.

Fwiw, I hold both you and arizbigdawg in the same esteem.

You can have the last word now.

[Edited by Jurassic Referee on Sep 19th, 2005 at 04:13 AM]

JRutledge Sun Sep 18, 2005 07:38pm

Well JR
 
Ya know, it is not worth it. If you feel that way, you will just have to continue thinking that way.

Peace

[Edited by JRutledge on Sep 19th, 2005 at 12:09 AM]

azbigdawg Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:45pm

Jurassic, I honestly have no clue what color you are, and I dont really care. I was just rying to get you to understand that there are many sides to an issue. Im honestly confused by your attacks and your categorization of me and Rutledge as the same person. Couldnt be further from the truth, probably. My politics would drive him nuts. I want to thank you, though for proving my point about other issues..it seems that you are not capable of carrying on a discussion with anyone that doesnt agree with you.


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