...hmmm ... Anyone got any guesses?

Steve Oakes of Houston Texas assigns those tournaments, as well as any other Vision Sports Tournament. Its a pleasure to work for them. Alot of guys from Houston make the trip to work for Steve and Alan.

Agreed, I worked for Steve this weekend at the Vision Sports tourney, it was fun.

BTW: Ref18, I officiate only basketball, so I'm not the guy you think. I also coach baseball if it helps, and I was the serious card player if you were at the casino at all (I was one of the guys with lots of free wine). Were you there with your father?

I lived in Las Vegas and went back to work with Steve in a tournament since I moved.

The local guys only get two locations (4 courts) during the Big Time tournament. The others are handled by various camps. There is another tournament that uses city facilities primarily and that is assigned mostly by a guy with a local officiating business. A lot of the local guys that belong to the high school association do not work for him. Steve Oakes does not assign games for all of the tournaments in Vegas because all of them aren't Vision Sports tournaments. He doesn't even assign all of the games for the Vision Sports tournaments because they are too big and he doesn't have enough guys.

For anyone who scoffs at rec ball I have this question: What level are you at and what level to you want to be at? This "rec ball" is at a high level. Unlike the Nike camp in Indianapolis, these players come with teams and they want to win games. Add in the fact that there are teams with multiple college-bound players and you get great competition. Isn't it funny that people criticize these games as "rec ball" but the SEC and NBA think enough of them to use them for training?

[Edited by tomegun on Jul 31st, 2005 at 01:07 PM]

Mr. Grammar Guy is unable to respond to this b/c he went into shock and is unconscious at the moment! :eek:

I've got a name to the face now, and yes, my dad was also there.

Are you the official who stayed at USA Hotel in Vegas?

If so, what is the name of those shoes you wore while doing games for Vision Sports?

The head coach was given a quick individual single conference before game that he had 2 full's, 1 thirty , all players need to be properly dressed before subbing and a coaches box from beginning bench to his teams’ end of bench ( good sportsmanship was not mention). During game coach strolled out of his restricted coaches box on to court, in front of scorers table, then later went beyond end line and towards basket including being on the court. A technical was given to head coach. Head coach was told he has lost his coaching box privileges and had to remain seated. Again was told repeatedly to have a sit down during live ball. Coach ignores all requests. He then proceeds to stand and coach on the court beyond his box close to end line. A second technical was given to the head coach.

An official watching one of the games at AAU nationals last week told about two moms who got into a fist fight at one of the Vegas tournaments this summer. He said the fans were jawing at each other throughout the game. After the game ended, as the stands cleared, the moms squared off at one end of the court. He said it was pretty nutty.

Any of you get to enjoy that game?

Any of you get to enjoy that fight?

Which one? There were at least 4 basketball tournaments in Vegas; Reebok Big Time, Adidas Super 64, Nike Main Event, Youth National Championships and ARC National Championships.

Rename the thread?
 

Can someone rename the thread to be:

Coach ejected at Adidas tourney in LV? ;)

[font size = -1](For those that don't know, Adidas is purchasing Reebok for 3.something billion.)[/font]

[Edited by JugglingReferee on Aug 3rd, 2005 at 10:08 PM]

My work and personal schedule has not allowed me to work much off-season basketball. This is the second season in a row that Steve has asked me to make the trek to Vegas and been unable to do so. I sure hope I can pull it off next summer.

I have worked the kingwood classic the past two years at the main tournament site, occasionaly even the main gym. THIS IS NOT your typical rec ball... I imagine some of these teams could give some DII and DIII college teams a run for there money.

Thanks for the details, Johnny.

NYC club coaches are used to not being seat-belted no matter what they say or do, so it's nice to see the coach get a good lesson on proper behavior.

The refs in NYC area summer tournaments are usually hired by the tournament sponsor, which is usually a club team, so they tend to give the coaches a lot of leeway. Everyone thinks they're Billy Martin talking to an umpire.

Re: Rename the thread?
 

So next year they will probably have to call their tournament the Adidas Super Big Time 64.