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Originally posted by Camron Rust
Once again, Jeff, you make absolute statements that are utter BS and once you're called on them, you weasle out of them by saying you weren't talking to me. You tell me this is a discussion board but I can't be in the discussion! Me handling the discussion is most certainly not an issue. I suggest you evaluate your ability to communicate on point and with clarity and open your horizons to realize that the world is bigger than you back yard.

It appears that whatever I say, you will find fault or a problem with it. That is perfectly fine with me and your prerogative to do so. Camron I never said you cannot be in the discussion, I just said my comments were not about you or what you thought was important. For some reason you have a hard on for everything I say and this is not the first post you have told me what makes since to you. You were not the person that I was asking the question to (you do not fit the description of a lower level official) and you did not start the thread. I was asking those that work lower level ball what they think.

Originally posted by Camron Rust
Just cause you're on many boards doesn't mean squat. I seem to recall you discrediting some NFHS board members saying that their authority is not well regarded (not a point that I agree with). Just because some people are able to BS their way into positions of visibility doesn't mean they know what they're talking about.

I have said that to people when they come off as the authority on all things in their state and other states. Just recently MTD tried to tell everyone how NF mechanics should be used by everyone that uses them. Then I witnessed Mary Struckoff in her own words (who actually works for the NF) make a statement that was quite different than MTD's point of view. So yes I have made statements about people talking out of pocket about what other states should or should not do because they feel it is the right thing. There are many people here that feel because their state uses one kind of mechanic, the entire country should use the same under NF mechanics. Well Mary made it very clear that is not the case. But that is not what we are talking about here.

I was not commenting for every place in the country. I was asking a question based on what happens here. Being on this board and other places for some time, the struggle to get to games is not something just an issue for people in my area or state. It seems like it is a widespread problem in many areas. Unless most games are starting at 9:00pm, I am sure most officials have a job where either they have to leave a little early or use vacation time to get off of work to officiate. I know in my sales position, I have to make sacrifices to work games. In some cases I lose money working a basketball game than I would if I made an appointment. I guess the D1 assignor whose camp I attended in June (in Ohio ironically) went on a big speech about work, family and officiating was not telling the truth or giving misinformation when he talked about your life having balance in it. I guess I do not really understand what your beef is? All you are telling me is that I am wrong and I am not clear what I said that could be wrong when I am asking a question for clarification?

Originally posted by Camron Rust
BTW, I'm the one that replied because everyone else is ignoring your mis-information.

Did it ever occur to you that maybe you are the only one that really has a problem with what I said. Or you are the only one that thinks what I said applied to everyone? Juulie did not agree with me either but she applied her points to the area she lives. She also focused on her area. Camron I read a lot of articles in magazines or read books and studies that I disagree with the information. It does not mean that what the person said was wrong or does not apply to someone. Do you ever watch Hardball with Chris Matthew? If people interpreted the same information the same way all the time, shows like Hardball would not be on the air.

Originally posted by Camron Rust
Perhaps you are a great official and a good speaker, it just doesn't come across that way in print. Perhaps the inconsistencies and errors in your written statements are not what you mean but all you're able to write.

I am not really sure what me being a good or bad official has to do with this conversation. I also do not know what being a good speaker has to do with this conversation either. I simply asked a question to help me understand Hasty's original point. I do not think we were talking about how good someone was as an official either. I am also not sure what I said was inconsistent. I stated that most people that I know when they work early games have to compensate with their job in some way. Does that apply to everyone, of course it does not. I think you want take things literally when first of all I was asking a question. You have yet to answer my question; you just said I was wrong for basically coming up with an idea.

Camron, I was asking a question and still no one has answered that question. I was not making a statement, but I did make an observation and asked a question based on my observation. If no one can answer my question, then so be it. It was not a life or death issue.

Peace