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Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 10:53am
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lukealex, we had this thread a while back and I was where you are on it. However much we like or dislike it, that's the rule.
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Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 11:22am
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For what it's worth, intentionally slapping the backboard is basket interference in FIBA rules.

Does anyone know the rule NBA rule for slapping the backboard? Just curious.
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Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 11:27am
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The ONLY foul that causes a shot to become dead is a player control foul.
....provided it isn't a game played under NCAA Mens rules....
Are you hinting at a team-control foul? Those also exist in NCAAW.
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Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 11:29am
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For what it's worth, intentionally slapping the backboard is basket interference in FIBA rules.

It's worth about 2/100 of a Euro

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Does anyone know the rule NBA rule for slapping the backboard? Just curious.
RULE NO. 11-BASKETBALL INTERFERENCE-GOALTENDING

Section I-A Player Shall Not:

i. Vibrate the rim or backboard so as to cause the ball to make an unnatural bounce.
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Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 01:00pm
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The ONLY foul that causes a shot to become dead is a player control foul.
....provided it isn't a game played under NCAA Mens rules....
What does the original post say? NFHS rules.
D'OH....

My bad.
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Old Wed Jul 20, 2005, 02:37pm
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...read definition of basket interference. It doesn't say that.
4.6.4 says "pulls down a movable ring," which I realize doesn't include slapping the backboard, but the cause and effect are the same.
Not quite. The purpose of the "movable ring" rule is to deal with (a) the basket being totally out of position (i.e., 30 degrees or more), and (b) the recoil - the rim hitting a ball in flight on its way back to the default position. The fact that the rim is shaking is not the rationale for the BI here.
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Old Thu Jul 21, 2005, 09:58am
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Got it, I have seen it called BI, more than once too. I'm glad I have this cleared up now. Thanks

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Old Thu Jul 21, 2005, 02:24pm
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Firstly, I have no check on the NCAA rules NBA rules or whatever regarding this, I know the swedish rules like the back of my hand cause I ref with swedish rules in sweden, but, I would allow a slap on the backboard unless the ball has begun decending, then I would, immedietly call a goaltending awarding two points, not even bothering wheter or not the ball goes in (the points go anyway), how ever, if the ball is on the ring it is allowed (in sweden) to hit it away by fingers or touching net, ring or backboard to try and make it go in/out the basket, therefore I wouldn't call if the ball already had touched the ring. But if it were decending I would call it goaltending, no techinical
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 03:20am
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This can be called a T, depending on severity and intention. The basket will count if it goes, this could also be called basket interference if it is determined the basket moved enough to cause the ball not to go through the basket.
You might consider a rule review. Slapping the backboard can NEVER be basket interferance. It is indeed a Technical foul. Basket counts if the ball goes in followed by two free throws and the ball at half court for a throw-in.

See Rule 4: definitions
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 03:34am
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Folks! This is as easy as they get.

Have you people bothered to actually read the rules? You know, that cute little book you might have paid for.

Slapping the backboard IS a technical in both NFHS and the NCAA PERIOD!

We don't have the luxury of choosing to call it only if we want to, and it most unequivicably it is not, nor can it ever be either Basket Interferance or Goaltending.

SHEEESH!
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 04:54am
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Folks! This is as easy as they get.

Have you people bothered to actually read the rules? You know, that cute little book you might have paid for.

Slapping the backboard IS a technical in both NFHS and the NCAA PERIOD!

We don't have the luxury of choosing to call it only if we want to, and it most unequivicably it is not, nor can it ever be either Basket Interferance or Goaltending.

SHEEESH!
Folks, this is as easy as the rules that define it.

Have you bothered to actually read the rules lately, Joe? Those cute little books you might have paid for?

My rule books from both rulesets say that the act of slapping the backboard must be an intentional act. Iow, it is a judgement call whether the player was going for a legitimate block or was just trying to draw attention to himself or maybe vent a little. If you judge that the player whacking the board was going for the block, then it sureashell isn't a technical foul- no matter how hard you might whack the board or how much the board shakes.

Slapping the backboard is not an automatic technical foul in both the NFHS and NCAA rulesets -PERIOD!

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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 08:00am
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You might consider a rule review. Slapping the backboard can NEVER be basket interferance. It is indeed a Technical foul. Basket counts if the ball goes in followed by two free throws and the ball at half court for a throw-in.

See Rule 4: definitions
Thanks for the tip. Here's a tip for you. Read the whole thread before swooping in to the rescue. We got your answer 48 hours ago.

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Folks! This is as easy as they get.

Have you people bothered to actually read the rules? You know, that cute little book you might have paid for.

What's with the condescension? You know so much more then the rest of us? Get off your freakin' high horse and join in some discussion before dignifying us with your wit and wisdom. Or if that is your idea of discussion, you can keep your wit and wisdom to yourself, as far as I'm concerned.
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 08:32am
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As Chuck said, we did get the answer long ago. I was corrected and am glad I was so I don't screw it up in a game.

This is an OFFICIAL'S forum, don't you think about 100%, give or take 0%, of the officials here have read the rulebook?
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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 08:35am
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Folks! This is as easy as they get.

Have you people bothered to actually read the rules? You know, that cute little book you might have paid for.

Slapping the backboard IS a technical in both NFHS and the NCAA PERIOD!

We don't have the luxury of choosing to call it only if we want to, and it most unequivicably it is not, nor can it ever be either Basket Interferance or Goaltending.

SHEEESH!
Um, at the risk of being impolite,

WHO THE HELL IS THIS GUY, ANYWAY?

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Old Fri Jul 22, 2005, 08:40am
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I asked the same question in another thread.

Who is Joe McCain?
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