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rainmaker Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:59am

The book says the 3-second count is to be suspended during an interrupted dribble. Does this mean any interrupted dribble, or only an interrupted dribble in the key?

Danvrapp Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:16pm

Why should it matter?

mick Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:21pm

Front court
 
Quote:

Originally posted by rainmaker
The book says the 3-second count is to be suspended during an interrupted dribble. Does this mean any interrupted dribble, or only an interrupted dribble in the key?
Jewel,
Any interrupted dribble in the front court, I assume, cuz we don't know who will end up with the ball, thus the advantage is negated.
mick

Brian Watson Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:22pm

I can see where this is confusing. The fed contradicts themselves with the backcourt count.

Rain - Any interrupted dribble would suffice.

mick Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:26pm

backcourt
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Brian Watson
I can see where this is confusing. The fed contradicts themselves with the backcourt count.

Rain - Any interrupted dribble would suffice.

Brian,
...ball in BC, 3 seconds?
mick

Brian Watson Fri Mar 30, 2001 12:37pm

What I mean is you continue your 10 second count in the BC during an interrupted dribble. So to turn around and say the 3 second count suspends on the same thing could be confusing.

But I have now confused myself so I'll stop now.

Dewey1 Fri Mar 30, 2001 03:24pm

I assume we are talking about NCAA rules here. In that case the 3 second count is only when the ball is in the front court. So any interupted dribble in the front court will suspend the count. If team A had the ball and an interupted dribble occurs and team A regains control of the ball the 3 second count will start again, even though the player may never have left the key.

mick Fri Mar 30, 2001 05:25pm

NCAA vs. Fed 3 seconds
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Dewey1
I assume we are talking about NCAA rules here. In that case the 3 second count is only when the ball is in the front court. So any interupted dribble in the front court will suspend the count. If team A had the ball and an interupted dribble occurs and team A regains control of the ball the 3 second count will start again, even though the player may never have left the key.

Dewey1,
Careful here.

NFHS 9-7 Three seconds: The count shall not begin <b><u><i>and</i></b> it shall be terminated</u> during an interrupted dribble.

NCAA 9-8-3 Three-second Rule: The count shall not begin<b><u><i> nor</i></b> shall it be terminated</u> during an interrupted dribble.

mick

dhodges007 Fri Mar 30, 2001 06:59pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Brian Watson
What I mean is you continue your 10 second count in the BC during an interrupted dribble. So to turn around and say the 3 second count suspends on the same thing could be confusing.

But I have now confused myself so I'll stop now.

I was told that the 3 second count begins when there is possesion established... even in back court!!! I don't believe this is correct, but could someone enlighten me?

Thanks,

Brian Watson Fri Mar 30, 2001 08:47pm


You cannot start a 3 second count until the ball has front court status.

rainmaker Fri Mar 30, 2001 09:19pm

It sounds like what you're saying is that if A1 is dribbling outside the 3-pt line, and fumbles, and then re-asserts his/her dribble, we start over with the 3-second count on A2, who has been in the paint the whole time. Is that right? Also, if A3 in the key receives the ball, having been in the key less than three seconds, allowances shall be made as he/she maneuvers for a shot. Okay, what about A4? If he/she is also in the key that whole time, do we call it on him/her?

Unrelated question: Can you call a fashion Technical on a coach whose clothes fit so poorly that his crack shows above his belt-loops? Do we feel so sorry for this guy that we toss him early out of pity?

mick Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:22pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker

Unrelated question: Can you call a fashion Technical on a coach whose clothes fit so poorly that his crack shows above his belt-loops? Do we feel so sorry for this guy that we toss him early out of pity?

Jewel,
A sad state of affairs, but that has never caught my eye.
I think it never will.
mick

BktBallRef Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:24pm

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Originally posted by rainmaker
It sounds like what you're saying is that if A1 is dribbling outside the 3-pt line, and fumbles, and then re-asserts his/her dribble, we start over with the 3-second count on A2, who has been in the paint the whole time. Is that right?
Opps! Less not confuse a fumble and an interrupted dribble. They are not the same. Let's re--phrase the question.

Quote:

It sounds like what you're saying is that if A1 is dribbling outside the 3-pt line, and the ball bounces off his leg, and then re-asserts his/her dribble, we start over with the 3-second count on A2, who has been in the paint the whole time. Is that right?
Yes.

Quote:

Also, if A3 in the key receives the ball, having been in the key less than three seconds, allowances shall be made as he/she maneuvers for a shot. Okay, what about A4? If he/she is also in the key that whole time, do we call it on him/her?
No, A4 is safe. But if A3 passes the ball to A4 or any other player, then we have 3 seconds.




mick Fri Mar 30, 2001 11:26pm

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Originally posted by dhodges007
Quote:

Originally posted by Brian Watson
What I mean is you continue your 10 second count in the BC during an interrupted dribble. So to turn around and say the 3 second count suspends on the same thing could be confusing.

But I have now confused myself so I'll stop now.

I was told that the 3 second count begins when there is possesion established... even in back court!!! I don't believe this is correct, but could someone enlighten me?

Thanks,

Denny,
Have you tried Rule 9-7 ?
mick

dhodges007 Sat Mar 31, 2001 02:47am

Thanks Mick! :D


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