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Originally posted by rockyroad

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
This change caused widespread confusion in the NCAA ranks when it was put in last year.

Really? I didn't hear any grumblings about it. Pretty easy, I thought.

If it should've been a T last year, then it's a violation this year. That's all. If it was legal last year, it's still legal.

I wonder what "widespread" means?? I sure didn't hear any grumblings in my neck of the woods...

Maybe he meant 'widespread' in the extremely limited sense of the word?

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Maybe he meant 'widespread' in the extremely limited sense of the word?

Oh, like widespread throughout my zip code?

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Maybe he meant 'widespread' in the extremely limited sense of the word?

Oh, like widespread throughout my zip code?

I was thinking more like widespread to your street...on your side....bounded by the house on your left & on your right...noninclusive of course.

btw...if things keep going as they have been neither of us will even see a damn wildcard this year.

Maybe there will be a player's strike?

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Originally posted by ChuckElias

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Originally posted by Dan_ref
Maybe he meant 'widespread' in the extremely limited sense of the word?

Oh, like widespread throughout my zip code?

"Widespread" is a term applied to wimmen when they're done birthing.

As in "Whoa, that one should have a license plate".

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Originally posted by OldCoachNewRef
This exact situation occurred with my daughter's team during a scrimmage on Sunday. Great save (high lob), stepped out, hustled back, made sure foot was down, secured the ball. Tweet, violation. I made the mistake of saying this isn't footbal from the stands and got a lecture that the ref has 20 years of experience and he was "certain" that was a violation. I didn't respond. If this had happened when I was coaching a few years back, I'm sure I would have been escorted out of the gym. I understand missed judgement calls, but I don't think there is an excuse for not knowing the rules. After officiating for two years now, I know there are good and bad officials, regardless of how long they have been working.

This is a perfect example of why we need to keep on top of the rules! If other officials are in the stands and KNOW the rule, then those on the court that blew the call just look horrible. But, as a word of warning, I know of a couple guys that have gotten into a fair bit of trouble for commenting in the stands about a fellow official's performance. Regardless of where we are, we're always being watched! I'm not a father yet, so I haven't had the pleasure of sitting in the stands to watch my son/daughter play, but I'm pretty vocal so I'm going to have to learn to just watch and keep quiet!

Widespread to me covered most of the state of CA and several of the NCAA games that I saw on TV. PAC-10, WAC, WCC, etc.

It seems that many of the conference assignors were unclear on exactly what the NCAA committee wanted. Some that I know of were instucting their officials to call a violation if the player stepped out while going for a loose ball near the sideline and then that player was the first to touch the ball inbounds. I have spoken with quite a few NCAA officials who were told just that. Therefore, I chalk this up to some kinks due to the first year of the rule being in use, and they should get worked out over the next couple of seasons.

What chuck said seems to come closest to my thoughts on the correct interp. If it was a T previously, now it is a violation. If it was legal previously, it is still legal.

Although, the NCAA left the T in the book presumably to cover cases in which the player deceptively leaves the court.
I suspect that the NFHS will do the same.