License renewal requirements

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

And you don't have to even worry about NOT passing Part 1. Someone always posts the answers here before the test is written.

And if not, just attend your association meeting. They go over the test, question by question. No problems. [/B][/QUOTE]Are you saying that they go over the current year's Part 1 test and then have their members write the same test?

Please tell me that you're not saying that. [/B][/QUOTE]

I'm sure he's not saying what you think he's saying. Well, not exactly. In our state, we have to submit our Part 1 test by a certain date (I believe it's Nov. 15th). Our association always has a meeting to go over the answers about a week or two before it's due. So, I guess it's possible some members might copy those answers and then send them in after the meeting. But it's not something that's encouraged (or discouraged, for that matter).

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Grail

To be registered in the first place you must pass Part I. If you don't attend a clinic once every 3 years, you are on probation. If your assigner doesn't care, and you don't care about working in the post season, it really doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure we have to pass Part I every year. If you don't pass the test, they don't send a new card.

You only have to pass the Part 1 if you are not on probation, which will lead to suspension of your license for a year. Or if you want to work playoff games you must pass the Part 1 every year.

The question was about renewal, not getting playoff games or getting any kind of game. All an IHSA official has to do to renew their license is to send in their money by June 30 of each year (or pay a $30 late fee after that date) and you will get a license to work for that coming season. If you are in good standing with the IHSA you can work games if you pass the Part 1 Exam or not. You can only work playoff games if you attend a rules meeting, pass the Part 1 Exam or specifically in basketball attend a 6 hour clinic every three years (classroom and court time). If an official is on probation that year for not fulfilling their normal obligations the previous year like I stated before, then the official can and will be put on suspension. If the official is on suspension, in order to get off of suspension (which means you cannot work any games during that season), that official must pass the Part 1 Exam, attend a rules meeting, pay their dues and attend any kind of clinic. Not doing one of these 4 things can get you put on probation and suspended depending on your current status. You can only work playoff games if you are in good standing. Being able to work playoff games and keeping a license are two different things. You can also lose your license if you are written up with a Special Reports form for doing many things that violate codes of conduct and violating basic IHSA rules (not wearing an IHSA patch is violating rules).

When my dues are paid, I will get a license in the mail this summer telling me I have a license in all the sports I paid dues for and telling me how many years I have been licensed with the IHSA. When the appropriate time comes up, the IHSA will send out NF Rulebooks and Part 1 Tests to complete. IHSA officials can take the Part 1 Exam online if they wish or mail in the scantron (sp??) form to the IHSA office in Bloomington. Part 2 Exams are only used for promotion purposes only. So I will get my Part 1 Exam and rulebooks for Football in July. For Basketball I will get the same type of packet in late September, early October. For Baseball I will get the packet in late January or early February. Each Part 1 Exam has to be due about a week or a few days before the regular season starts of that current season.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee


Please tell me that you're not saying that.

Yes, that is what he is saying. The Part 1 Exam is an open book test. Anyone can go over the answers and discuss whatever they want to before the test is due. It is very common that all associations I have been a member of or know of other members of other organizations has time set aside to go over the Part 1 Exam in all sports. I will back track a little bit on what I just said. I do belong to one organization in football that does not go over the test at all. The reason they seemed to not do that is because the focus of the organization is heavy on college football. They spend no time on the NF Part 1 Test. This organization has 4 Big Ten crew chiefs and HS football is seen as a stepping stone to get to the college ranks in this on association. Statewide you rarely see any association not go over the test and take scheduled meeting time to go over the answers. The practice was even somewhat endorsed by the people from the IHSA and they are well aware of the practice going on all across the state. For Basketball alone we have a get together and we discuss the entire test and talk about situations that are asked by the test. In preparation for this meeting, I am the designated person to look up every single rule so that I can give everyone the place they can find the answer for the question in either the rulebook or casebook. The test is viewed by many as a formality, not a gauge of officiating knowledge. Just like assignors play a bigger role here than it seems to in other areas.

Peace

[Grail]

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

And you don't have to even worry about NOT passing Part 1. Someone always posts the answers here before the test is written.

And if not, just attend your association meeting. They go over the test, question by question. No problems. [/B][/QUOTE]Are you saying that they go over the current year's Part 1 test and then have their members write the same test?

Please tell me that you're not saying that. [/B][/QUOTE]

OK, I'm not saying that.

[stewcall]

Originally posted by Grail

And if not, just attend your association meeting. They go over the test, question by question. No problems.

Are you saying that they go over the current year's Part 1 test and then have their members write the same test?

Please tell me that you're not saying that. [/B][/QUOTE]

OK, I'm not saying that. [/B][/QUOTE]

Our Association (I believe it was state wide in Va) had 4 versions of the part 1 exam. (all the same test, just the order of the questions were scrambled) We had to sit besides someone who had a different version of the exam-- an attempt although admittedly a weak one, to prevent cheating.
Yes I was proud of my 99 score.. studied hard... I don't have much patience for cheaters---
There is a difference between openly discussing questions-- but many just want the answers

Stew in VA
CVBOA

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by stewcall


Our Association (I believe it was state wide in Va) had 4 versions of the part 1 exam. (all the same test, just the order of the questions were scrambled) We had to sit besides someone who had a different version of the exam-- an attempt although admittedly a weak one, to prevent cheating.
Yes I was proud of my 99 score.. studied hard... I don't have much patience for cheaters---
There is a difference between openly discussing questions-- but many just want the answers

Stew in VA
CVBOA

Well it sounds like your state gives the test on a specific day and time. My state does not give the test on a single day or meeting. We have over a month to turn in our Part 1 tests. Our state only gives out one version of the test. Our testing process seems to be for very basic qualification, not to be the final determiner for playoff games or benefits for a higher score.

Peace

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