Welcome to all...I'm a new member

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by rainmaker

Mark -- you forgot the most important rule of all. Case plays that occur near the ends of close games and involve the clock starting or not starting incorrectly have to start with the clock at 3.6 sec, or 2.8 sec.

I thought the most important rule of all was never to correct me.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by PGCougar
A hearty welcome from the coaches who post on this forum too! Oh, by the way, you really blew that call! No way that's a foul! Sheesh!

(sneaks back to the bench in an effort to avoid getting T'd)

Sigh...typical coach

Although, admitting you have the problem is the first step towards recovery.

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by M&M Guy

Sigh...typical coach

Although, admitting you have the problem is the first step towards recovery.

You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.

[PGCougar]

Originally posted by rainmaker

You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.

Ouch! Rainmaker, you seem rather pensive today. I was only poking some fun. Sorry if I missed and poked a raw nerve. That wasn't my intent.

The only way to survive long-term in this game is to establish and maintain an even keel. Coaches are hardly immune from criticism and second-guessing. Look at the overly-vocal and overly-involved parents questioning every move and every possession and it isn't much easier to be a coach than an official. I don't want to get into a pissing contest about who's got it tougher. Yet most of us who are dedicated to the game we love carry on and block out the background din.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by rainmaker
You know, Mmm, the first step isn't admitting that the coach has a problem. He already knows that, but he thinks the problem is the ref! The first step is admitting that he himself IS the problem. I could try to think if a funny way to say that but it's almost too true to be funny. As long as the coach is blaming the ref, he doesn't have to face the truth. And kids learn that quickly, too. "If the refs would just start doing their job..." Yep, it really IS too true to be funny.

I did take his comments, along with the smilies, as a small admission of his knowledge that coaches can be the problem. Couple that with the fact that he's on this forum and willing to find out information - I think that's a good first step or two on the way to recovery!

So, does someone need a weekend?

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by M&M Guy

I did take his comments, along with the smilies, as a small admission of his knowledge that coaches can be the problem. Couple that with the fact that he's on this forum and willing to find out information - I think that's a good first step or two on the way to recovery!

So, does someone need a weekend?

The coaches that check in here regularly are exempt from any criticism I hand out to coaches in general. And I didn't mean to sound emotional, or upset. But, hey, I'll take a weekend, if you're handing them out!

But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

[ChrisSportsFan]

Originally posted by rainmaker

The coaches that check in here regularly are exempt from any criticism I hand out to coaches in general. And I didn't mean to sound emotional, or upset. But, hey, I'll take a weekend, if you're handing them out!

But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

I had a spoiled kid last night who didn't commit any of the first 4 fouls we called on him (wink, laugh, yes he did, wink). He also didn't give me the stinky eye and then shove the opponent when he bumped into him, so the T I issued he also didn't deserve.

[M&M Guy]

Originally posted by rainmaker

The coaches that check in here regularly are exempt from any criticism I hand out to coaches in general. And I didn't mean to sound emotional, or upset. But, hey, I'll take a weekend, if you're handing them out!

But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

No problem - consider me the weekend god. And, since you're being a good sport about it, go ahead and consider Monday a holiday as well...(and, while you're at it - hug a soldier).

I agree you might see more "spoiled" kids (and coaches) than you used to, but I guess I'm an optimist - I think the majority still have the right attitudes. It's just seems like hard work making sure the "virus" doesn't spread.

[PGCougar]

Originally posted by rainmaker
... But seriously, I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates - Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC)

Looks like things haven't changed much in about 2,400 years...

[mick]

Originally posted by rainmaker
.... I think the definition of "spoiled" is the kid who always blames everything on everyone else. And it saddens me to see so many spoiled kids in basketball.

spoiled
adj 1: treated with excessive indulgence; "pampered from earliest childhood, he believed the world had been invented for his entertainment" [syn: coddled, pampered]
2: having the character or disposition harmed by pampering or oversolicitous attention; "a spoiled child" [syn: spoilt]

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by PGCougar

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

Socrates - Greek philosopher in Athens (469 BC - 399 BC)

Looks like things haven't changed much in about 2,400 years...

Good quote. I mean, really. What can you do with a kid once she starts crossing her legs?!? It's all lost by then!