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Old Wed Mar 28, 2001, 07:44pm
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Re: Don't like it

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Maybe just a hover device so we would not have to run. All the controls could be on the control panel and we wouldn't need scorers or timers either. I always liked the "Jetsons" What do you think Astro?

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Old Wed Mar 28, 2001, 07:49pm
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I'm with Brian

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Gentalmen, a Thomas Edison wannabee.

If you will please, how many times a game do you blow? Thanks.

Brian, you would know which official blew, just like you do now. It comes from them, on their wrist. A loud signal.

Shot clocks are much more exspensive. Schools might want to consider the OFFICIAL WHISTLE for hygene sake alone. I just wanted to know if you, (the official) not schools, would use one or buy one. I see the sweat and spit and saliva and other contaminants transfered from all players, refs, the floor, and the ball - directly to the officials mouth.

This would free your hands and mouth.

Just an honest question. If this was available in a fair price range, and a very good design, would you want one or use one?

Why woudn't this be benifical to the game?
No, it wouldn't. You're making a big deal out of nothing. A Fox40 costs $5 or $6. It does the job quite well. I don't think schools are worried about a little bit of salivia traveling through the air and landing on someone. it's ludicrous.

The Fox40 blows but your idea sucks!

[Edited by BktBallRef on Mar 28th, 2001 at 09:46 PM]
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2001, 08:03pm
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Re: I'm with Brian

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The Fox40 blows but your idea sucks!
BktBallRef,

Nothing personal, but replies like that sure do reek of the "no outsiders" attitude. If others (non-officials) choose to visit our website and ask for our opinions or thoughts, we should oblige.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2001, 09:57pm
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Red face I wouldn't use it

but somebody else might. I wouldn't pay $35+ for a gadget plus batteries and a charger when I can use a cheaper and proven fox 40 for $4.50. Also, on more of a side bar, we are referee's. We BLOW a whistle just like football, volleyball, etc.. too much of a hassle to change something so important to the game - and too much room for error.

By the way, in women's NCAA, the Lead official blows the whistle before administering a throw-in on the baseline or on the sideline, free-throw line and down as long as the ball is staying in the frontcourt. This may be why you we hear the whistle more often.
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Old Wed Mar 28, 2001, 10:53pm
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Re: Re: I'm with Brian

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The Fox40 blows but your idea sucks!
BktBallRef,

Nothing personal, but replies like that sure do reek of the "no outsiders" attitude. If others (non-officials) choose to visit our website and ask for our opinions or thoughts, we should oblige.
We should oblige??? This is an open forum and "outsiders" are certainly welcome to ask for opinions. He asked, I obliged. I didn't have to but chose to. And I was just echoing Brian's sentiments. Bottom line, this is just spam. Some guy who has no interest in this forum and is just trying to sell something.

Nothing personal but that's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2001, 08:29am
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If you will please, how many times a game do you blow? Thanks.
50 times maybe. Unless its a 5th/6th grade game and we have 50 jumpballs alone. Then its more like 200 times!

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Shot clocks are much more exspensive. Schools might want to consider the OFFICIAL WHISTLE for hygene sake alone. I just wanted to know if you, (the official) not schools, would use one or buy one. I see the sweat and spit and saliva and other contaminants transfered from all players, refs, the floor, and the ball - directly to the officials mouth.

This would free your hands and mouth.

Just an honest question. If this was available in a fair price range, and a very good design, would you want one or use one?
I honestly wouldn't use one for the reasons others have mentioned. Batteries, whistles are cheap, maintenance, failure at critical times, etc. Unless it proved itself in some other area, it would be difficult to sell this device to officials. Whistles have been around for a long time.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2001, 08:59am
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Brian and others. You can always carry a fox in your pocket for security sake. .
You're right, we could carry a whistle for emergencies. But what if my "whistle/horn" thingy goes dead? I switch to my trusty fox, now we have two guys using the "whistle/horn" thingy, and I have a fox.

I think that would cause problems.

The only sport this might have a chance in is volleyball, even then I would be leary of using it.
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Old Thu Mar 29, 2001, 09:51am
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Steven,

When blowing the whistle, the last thing that the official normally does is put air in the whistle. Before that, a hand or fist is being raised as a mechanic. By blowing last, it gives the official one last split second to reconsider what he/she has seen and maybe allow the game to continue.

The way you described your PRODUCT, whenever a fist was clenched around the sensors the device would sound. This would take away the last chance for making a call that should not be made.

This would be a product much more feasible for other sports, such as football or volleyball, where the action is dead normally before the official needs to sound his whistle.

I would not consider using this for basketball, unless it was hoop-it-up.
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Old Fri Mar 30, 2001, 11:35am
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Bigwhistle- excellent reasoning!
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Old Fri Mar 30, 2001, 02:59pm
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Bigwhistle,
You are right on the money, as I was reading the replies, I kept thinking about our mechanics, Blow whistle, raise hand and point or give some sort of single. I think having something on the wrist or palm would get in the way. What about the official who makes the block call and sells it. I don't know about everyone else, but if I go to give the block signal with some authority, I have probably broke this device!

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