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Old Mon May 23, 2005, 05:50am
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The first one is funny. The second one, I would have taken as him being a sarcastic pain in the a$$. I probably would have T'd him.

You would have T'd him for that?

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Yes. When you consider that the comments came from someone who is an official, it makes it easy to see that this guy was belittling an official he thinks that he is better than. This is truly disrespectful and there is no place for it.

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Old Mon May 23, 2005, 06:06am
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Nevada, I do not agree with giving a T to a coach because he is an official. I'm not saying the coach shouldn't have got a T, it is just difficult to know the tone he used when asking the question. Rainmaker is happy with not giving a T so it seems like it all worked out.

A long time ago in a middle school gym there was an official playing in an adult league that used "speed" rules. The officials did not have to handle the ball on violations and some other situations. Also, the inbounder had all the way around the end line and side line up to the division line to inbound the ball. So, the opponent was called for a violation and they knocked the ball into the corner. The official, who was playing that night, asked the officials to give a delay of game warning since this hindered the start of a fast break. The officials ignored him. As it turned out during the next possession the officials team was called for 3-seconds. The official had the ball behind the three point arc when the call was made. Does the official/player give the ball to the officials? No, he proceeds to jack up a three during a dead ball which prevents the other team from taking the ball out. Whack! Technical foul, no warning. So after the game they said I uh I mean the official/player should have known better since I'm I mean he is an official. The official/player's response is "that doesn't matter tonight, I'm a player!"

This situation reminded me of that night. I still don't think I uh I mean the official/player should have got the T since they didn't do anything about the previous delay of game.
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Old Mon May 23, 2005, 06:14am
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Good story.

But I'm not penalizing him for being an official. I'm penalizing him for being an arrogant jacka$$ who mocks and puts down an official. That lacks class imo.
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Old Mon May 23, 2005, 09:07am
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Good story.

But I'm not penalizing him for being an official. I'm penalizing him for being an arrogant jacka$$ who mocks and puts down an official. That lacks class imo.

That still does not sound like a good reason. To each his own I guess. That just makes you look like a "red ***" instead of an approachable official.

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Old Mon May 23, 2005, 09:44am
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The expert's opinion ,

The easiest T to give is when they want it. Several quotes I've heard and responded to,

"Why don't you call something!!" WHACK

"Aren't you going to call a foul" WHACK

"Where's the foul" WHACK

"Call it both ways" WHACK followed by football style reporting (both to the bench side and the spectators side of the court)

And the final one,

"Why don't you just T me up then" WHACK

In all these situations there was previous stuff that led upto this, so I just didn't arbitrarily Whack the coaches.

If he's asking me for it, then I'm more than happy to oblidge.

And I don't care if he's getting any satisfaction from it, as the satisfaction I'm getting is far greater

(just kidding with that last point, I'm not going out of my way to T up coaches, but if it happens, then it happens.)



General Otis T Whackenator has spoken LOL!!!

(what a great 1600th post )
Adding to this list:

"Do you guys know what a foul is?!?!" WHACK
Had a coach scream this at the top of his lungs, team down by 32 in the fourth quarter. Didn't want to seem like I was piling on, but he begged for this one.

"Am I ever going to get a call?!?!" WHACK

You just got one coach. Now have a seat and play nice like the rest of the kids!
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Old Tue May 24, 2005, 07:53am
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I let them abuse me

WOW. I took way too much grief from coaches last year. My final T count on coaches was 4, with one ejection. From these threads it seems I should have called more like 104. I did some adult rec ball this spring and I am getting better at T'ing up the people who want/earned it.
Coming into this I thought the Tee was the equivalent of a 20 year prison sentence. Now I am seeing some players/coaches can't control themselves until they have 1 T on themselves and then they behave appropriately.
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Old Tue May 24, 2005, 10:13am
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I don't see a T in the original post. It sounds like he might have been a little sarcastic or maybe lost his head for a second and yelled. I also sounds like he caught himself and asked his question nicely. Should he know better as an official, probably. Should we work a game differently because the coach is an official? Definitely not. I don't see where a T here would make the game better. Sounds to me like the situation was handled well.
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Old Tue May 24, 2005, 10:47am
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I don't know about anyone else here, but quite often I find myself being more critical and watching the refing more than the actual game when I am in the stands. This can be good and bad, It's good because you can learn alot from watching others mechanics and skillz. Bad because its the criticism that will get you into hot water.
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Old Tue May 24, 2005, 11:59am
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I am going to hate myself in the morning for this, but:

Ref #1: "Stupid coach?"

Ref #2: "Is there anyother kind?"


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