Basketball Rules Fundamentals

mdray · #1 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 08:58am

With the Fed change next year re: double fouls resulting in resuming play at POI, it's the first time since I've been officiating (that I can think of) that one of the 20 Rules Fundamentals will change. I was wondering if anyone can remember any other change in any of the Fundamentals ... what changed and what was the reason for the change? Has there always been 20 "fundamentals"?
Can you see anything in the Fundamentals that may be (or should be) changed in the future, or has already been discussed as a possible change?

ChuckElias · #2 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 09:06am

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Originally posted by mdray
Has there always been 20 "fundamentals"?

I'm pretty sure at one time there were only 8

ChuckElias · #3 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 09:15am

Well, poop. I messed it up. It was actually only 13 (not 8).

http://www.usabasketball.com/rules/n...nal_rules.html

M&M Guy · #4 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 11:37am

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Originally posted by ChuckElias
Well, poop. I messed it up. It was actually only 13 (not 8).

http://www.usabasketball.com/rules/n...nal_rules.html

It's ok Chuck, we understand - it was a long time ago after all. But, didn't Dr. Naismith include the rules on his tests? And didn't you study for those tests?

SeanFitzRef · #5 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 11:39am

No, from what I heard Chuck helped write the rules.

Back In The Saddle · #6 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 02:29pm

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Originally posted by SeanFitzRef
No, from what I heard Chuck helped write the rules.

The box score from the first game lists him as the umpire.

JugglingReferee · #7 (**permalink**) Tue May 17, 2005, 06:27pm

JR was the Referee and Crew Chief. The game fee was $0.02. That's how the saying "my 2 cents worth" came about.

JR said to Naismith that he thought he should be paid for travel and a per diem. James tossed JR a penny and said, "A penny for your thoughts."

Total income from game #1: $0.03.

rainmaker · #8 (**permalink**) Wed May 18, 2005, 01:24am

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Originally posted by JugglingReferee
JR was the Referee and Crew Chief. The game fee was $0.02. That's how the saying "my 2 cents worth" came about.

JR said to Naismith that he thought he should be paid for travel and a per diem. James tossed JR a penny and said, "A penny for your thoughts."

Total income from game #1: $0.03.

If I remember correctly, Padgett also worked that game. And that was before they wore fishnets!

JugglingReferee · #9 (**permalink**) Wed May 18, 2005, 11:11am

Juulie, you are correct.

The original game was 3-person. Historically, this is ironic because we all think that 2-person came first, then 3-person afterwards.