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mdray Tue May 17, 2005 08:58am

With the Fed change next year re: double fouls resulting in resuming play at POI, it's the first time since I've been officiating (that I can think of) that one of the 20 Rules Fundamentals will change. I was wondering if anyone can remember any other change in any of the Fundamentals ... what changed and what was the reason for the change? Has there always been 20 "fundamentals"?
Can you see anything in the Fundamentals that may be (or should be) changed in the future, or has already been discussed as a possible change?

ChuckElias Tue May 17, 2005 09:06am

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Originally posted by mdray
Has there always been 20 "fundamentals"?
I'm pretty sure at one time there were only 8 :)

ChuckElias Tue May 17, 2005 09:15am

Well, poop. I messed it up. It was actually only 13 (not 8).

http://www.usabasketball.com/rules/n...nal_rules.html

M&M Guy Tue May 17, 2005 11:37am

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Well, poop. I messed it up. It was actually only 13 (not 8).

http://www.usabasketball.com/rules/n...nal_rules.html

It's ok Chuck, we understand - it was a long time ago after all. But, didn't Dr. Naismith include the rules on his tests? And didn't you study for those tests?

SeanFitzRef Tue May 17, 2005 11:39am

No, from what I heard Chuck helped write the rules.
:p

Back In The Saddle Tue May 17, 2005 02:29pm

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Originally posted by SeanFitzRef
No, from what I heard Chuck helped write the rules.
:p

The box score from the first game lists him as the umpire. :D

JugglingReferee Tue May 17, 2005 06:27pm

JR was the Referee and Crew Chief. The game fee was $0.02. That's how the saying "my 2 cents worth" came about.

JR said to Naismith that he thought he should be paid for travel and a per diem. James tossed JR a penny and said, "A penny for your thoughts."

Total income from game #1: $0.03.

rainmaker Wed May 18, 2005 01:24am

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Originally posted by JugglingReferee
JR was the Referee and Crew Chief. The game fee was $0.02. That's how the saying "my 2 cents worth" came about.

JR said to Naismith that he thought he should be paid for travel and a per diem. James tossed JR a penny and said, "A penny for your thoughts."

Total income from game #1: $0.03.

If I remember correctly, Padgett also worked that game. And that was before they wore fishnets!

JugglingReferee Wed May 18, 2005 11:11am

Juulie, you are correct.

The original game was 3-person. Historically, this is ironic because we all think that 2-person came first, then 3-person afterwards.


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