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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 03:48pm
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Thanks JRut...Now, that makes a lot more sense than what my association is telling me to include my assignor and rule interpeter... I appreciate you giving me the beneift of your wisdom and experience... this is the way I have felt and I hoped that others saw it the same. When someone of your prestige agrees... I think that I am doing something right....Thanks, again
I am just an average official that has had some lower level success and hold some positions in my area. I am just sharing "my opinion" and nothing else. I do not speak for anyone other than myself. If you have people that are telling you to do something, those are the people you need to listen to. I am in no way going to hold you back or give you an opportunity in officiating. I just think such a ruling does not have anything to do with the game. I have had no one where I live make that kind of issue or even raise that issue where I live. That does not mean your area cannot be different. Ultimately you are going to have to live with the officials you are around. Do not listen to me or apply my personal philosophy if that is in conflict with the people you deal with. I just personally think it is silly to worry about wear these things are worn, when manufacturers are fully aware of how these things are used and the style that is expressed across the country. This is like when the rule was in place about what logo could be on the socks. It was very hard to control and even harder to convince teams to totally comply. It also has nothing to do with the game. I appreciate the kind words, but my word is only going to go so far.

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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 04:00pm
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Re: Let me stop you right there!!!

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I am just an average official that has had some lower level success and hold some positions in my area.
Aw, Rut!
Yer blushing.
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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 04:39pm
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I am just an average official
OK, who are you and what have you done with Rut?
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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 04:43pm
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I am just an average official
That's an insult to average officials everywhere!

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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 04:52pm
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Re: Let me stop you right there!!!

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Originally posted by agmattbballref

Thanks JRut...Now, that makes a lot more sense than what my association is telling me to include my assignor and rule interpeter... I appreciate you giving me the beneift of your wisdom and experience... this is the way I have felt and I hoped that others saw it the same. When someone of your prestige agrees... I think that I am doing something right....Thanks, again
I am just an average official that has had some lower level success and hold some positions in my area. I am just sharing "my opinion" and nothing else. I do not speak for anyone other than myself. If you have people that are telling you to do something, those are the people you need to listen to. I am in no way going to hold you back or give you an opportunity in officiating. I just think such a ruling does not have anything to do with the game. I have had no one where I live make that kind of issue or even raise that issue where I live. That does not mean your area cannot be different. Ultimately you are going to have to live with the officials you are around. Do not listen to me or apply my personal philosophy if that is in conflict with the people you deal with. I just personally think it is silly to worry about wear these things are worn, when manufacturers are fully aware of how these things are used and the style that is expressed across the country. This is like when the rule was in place about what logo could be on the socks. It was very hard to control and even harder to convince teams to totally comply. It also has nothing to do with the game. I appreciate the kind words, but my word is only going to go so far.

Peace
OK...and I know you are right of course, but I think you are being too modest.
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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 04:53pm
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Considering who thinks that would be an insult, most would not be listening to you.

I guess we run in different circles.

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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 04:56pm
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The only exception I allow to the wristband rule is to let coaches wear them across their mouths.
I'll second this exception!
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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 06:07pm
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When sweatbands are worn around the neck I thought they became necklaces, and that's not allowed.
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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 06:43pm
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Could someone chime in and set me straight as to where to find the rule support for this situation.
NFHS rule 3-5-3--"Equipment shall not be modified from the original manufactured state and shall be worn in the manner the manufacturer intended it to be worn". Iow, if it's a wristband, it better be on the wrist.
What if it's just called a sweatband?
Then it better be worn on his sweat-er.
One clever reply to another.

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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 06:47pm
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When sweatbands are worn around the neck I thought they became necklaces, and that's not allowed.
Works for me!
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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 07:42pm
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Considering who thinks that would be an insult, most would not be listening to you.

I guess we run in different circles.

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Old Fri Apr 29, 2005, 10:48pm
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The only exception I allow to the wristband rule is to let coaches wear them across their mouths.
I'll second this exception!
I carry a spare, just in case the coach doesn't have his.
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Old Sat Apr 30, 2005, 01:58am
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I guess we run in different circles.

Peace
So that's what is going on....you're running in circles!!

I usually run straight..
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Old Sat Apr 30, 2005, 05:25am
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There are sweatbands designed to be worn around the bicep. These first came out a few years ago, and were made popular when Ben Wallace started getting attention.

Why does everyone assume these are wristbands pulled up? Regular wristbands are not elastic enough to be pulled over an athlete's bicep, except maybe Reggie Miller.
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Old Sat Apr 30, 2005, 09:28am
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I had a player wear one around his calf this year. I allowed it. He said it was a tribute to a relative that had passed away recently.
Go ahead and crucify me if you must.
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