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Re: Re: convoluted solution

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Originally posted by JugglingReferee

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
For NFHS, if you really want to get it right, you have to use the arrow, and if it is going the other way, you'll get to throw the coach out. :D

A funny solution which you could use, and still do it by the book, would be to administer the AP throw-in to the opponents and as soon as the kid passes the ball, blow your whistle. Now you have another accidental whistle and the arrow is going back to the team which had it in the first place.

There is a problem with this solution.

If you were to go with the arrow, the arrow is not reversed until the throw-in is completed. Since your solution means blowing the whistle before it is touched inbounds, the only other method to reverse the arrow using a rule, is to claim that the new throw-in team has violated the throw-in provisions. :D

What about timing the whistle with the first touch inbounds, before the receiver has the opportunity to control the ball. Throw-in ends with the touch, no team control has been established.

Re: Re: Re: convoluted solution

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Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
What about timing the whistle with the first touch inbounds, before the receiver has the opportunity to control the ball. Throw-in ends with the touch, no team control has been established.

That could work, only if the player doesn't catch the ball cleanly.

Using the premise that the shot clock and the game clock start simultaneously when she does catch the ball cleanly, the same premise applies to our little twist.

Argh! WHAT ARE YOU WE GOING TO DO! :D :D

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Rats, you're right. Good thought by BITS, but I agree that doesn't quite do it either.
That's what I get for trying to be creative.

Glad stmaryrams liked the post though. Makes it worth the time.

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Originally posted by Nevadaref
Rats, you're right. Good thought by BITS, but I agree that doesn't quite do it either.
That's what I get for trying to be creative.

Glad stmaryrams liked the post though. Makes it worth the time.

But what are the chances that a coach will know this rule? :D

This is so much simpler than the 3 pages of posts suggest.

Parallel Situation: Held Ball. Arrow to A. Official erroneously gives ball to B. Before the ball is touched inbounds, the official realizes the error and blows the whistle. The ruling is to give the ball to A for the deserved AP throwin. If the ball had been touched inbounds, it would be too late.

The case being discussed here is EXACTLY the same. A whistle is blown when the ball is not in control of either team. And, there is a presribed throwin due to one of the teams as a result of the prior infraction.

If the whistle is blown before the throwin ends (and it is not due to a new infraction), you revert to the original reason that a throwin was occuring to begin with and start it over. No AP involved at all unless the original throwin was supposed to be and AP throwin.