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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 03:01pm
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I will never assume the NCAA and the NF want the exact same application when the NF says nothing about it. Also remember the NF just changed their rule a little on this issue. This could be something that just was overlooked. It is one thing if I apply the rule, but that might not be what others think the ruling is. I would feel more comfortable if the NF had a ruling that I could refer to that was consistent with the NCAA. I cannot tell a coach or an assignor, "The NCAA Rules state......" That will not fly with the people I work for.

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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 03:24pm
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I cannot tell a coach or an assignor, "The NCAA Rules state......" That will not fly with the people I work for.

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And I would never say the same as well. It even bugs me to see an official wear a CCA jacket at a HS game, much less try to explain a call by using NCAA rules. I was just trying to point out that this idea of using the legs seems to lean a little more towards the "basics" of the game of basketball, like dribbling, passing, and shooting, which is the same between the NCAA and NF, rather than issues of shot clocks, number of time-outs, and those types of items that are different between the organizations. Like I said, I'm not sure I've ever seen that exact situation, but I would be interested in finding out if that's the intention of the NF as well.
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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 03:30pm
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I cannot tell a coach or an assignor, "The NCAA Rules state......" That will not fly with the people I work for.

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It even bugs me to see an official wear a CCA jacket at a HS game...

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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 03:47pm
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And I would never say the same as well. It even bugs me to see an official wear a CCA jacket at a HS game, much less try to explain a call by using NCAA rules.
That drives me crazy when I see guys do that.

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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 08:50pm
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It even bugs me to see an official wear a CCA jacket at a HS game... [/B][/QUOTE]
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I plead stupidity here. Tell me what CCA stands for. I'm sure it isn't "Can't Call Anything!" Inquiring minds want to know.
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It even bugs me to see an official wear a CCA jacket at a HS game...
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It may since IAABO means "I am a blind official".
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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 08:56pm
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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 09:06pm
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It even bugs me to see an official wear a CCA jacket at a HS game...
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It may since IAABO means "I am a blind official". [/B][/QUOTE]

These are the jackets required when working college games.

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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 11:03pm
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For argument sake, one could potentially call a technical foul in NFHS if a player were to deliberately hold the ball between his/her legs. The officials have the power to enforce anything that's not clearly outlined in the rulebook.

The act of squeezing the ball between the legs is unsporting and not part of the game.
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Old Fri Apr 22, 2005, 11:19pm
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For argument sake, one could potentially call a technical foul in NFHS if a player were to deliberately hold the ball between his/her legs. The officials have the power to enforce anything that's not clearly outlined in the rulebook.

The act of squeezing the ball between the legs is unsporting and not part of the game.
You are right, just for argument sake. If someone did that, it would be one of the dumbest things I would see an official call. We could do a lot of things, does not make it right or make any sense.

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Old Sat Apr 23, 2005, 09:07am
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I did see a young kid hold it between his calves and jump once. That made the situation pretty easy,
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Old Sat Apr 23, 2005, 09:13am
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I did see a young kid hold it between his calves and jump once. That made the situation pretty easy,
Travel? Not too shabby, as the rule states "while holding the ball," but doesn't specify where/how the ball is being held.

Seriously, though, if someone holds the ball between their legs, I'm calling a kick ball violation. If someone asks, I'd tell them that basketball is played with the hands, not the legs, and if anyone presses further, my reference is 2-3.

Also, thanks everyone for pointing out that the offense can have a kicked ball called on them. I got screamed at quite a bit over this a few years back - by my co-workers, nonetheless - and love to see people correct the myth.
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Old Sat Apr 23, 2005, 08:59pm
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Seriously, though, if someone holds the ball between their legs, I'm calling a kick ball violation. If someone asks, I'd tell them that basketball is played with the hands, not the legs, and if anyone presses further, my reference is 2-3.

Also, thanks everyone for pointing out that the offense can have a kicked ball called on them. I got screamed at quite a bit over this a few years back - by my co-workers, nonetheless - and love to see people correct the myth. [/B]
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If someone is holding the ball between their legs, they must have a lot of time on their hands or the defense is real slow because that is a steal just waiting to happen.
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