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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 10:54am
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Especially when I do not judge people like you do based on very limited contact and interaction. As I have stated before, there are internet officials and real officials. You sound like an internet official to me.

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You don't judge people but you just judged Z. You've never met Z but he's an "internet official" and not a "real official".

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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 10:58am
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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 10:59am
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In never said you claimed he was evil, but you said that he lacked decency. That is your opinion, especially when the comments were not made to you. What this official said had little or nothing to do with decency or lack of decency. He was making a point and wanted that point to come across. It seemed to come across as stated by the person that he said it to. You were not there. I was not there. I do not know if the person was angry or joking. I see a lot of people use more than the F-word here, never have seen you go off on them for their "lack of decency" you seemed to be so upset by. If the person this D1 official was talking to got the message and has admitted somewhat of a bond after this, then who in the hell are you to tell them they are wrong? If he said it to you, then you have the right to come up and say something to ignore the advice. But he was not talking to you, so that is not the issue.

It might have been judgmental to call you an "internet official," but in most of our contact with each other, that is exactly what you sound like. For someone that has no idea the respect I get as an official or a human being, you have some balls telling me what decency is. Especially when you have shown none here when issues that I feel are important are expressed. All you do is come around and tell people what offends you and how bad of a person they are. So what goes around comes around.

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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 11:01am
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Originally posted by JRutledge

Especially when I do not judge people like you do based on very limited contact and interaction. As I have stated before, there are internet officials and real officials. You sound like an internet official to me.
You don't judge people but you just judged Z. You've never met Z but he's an "internet official" and not a "real official".

Makes sense. [/B]
What's wrong with being an internet official? Sounds kinda cool to me, I would love to be able to dq folks from the internet. Not to mention the money I would save in gas alone.
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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 11:12am
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Let me try to elucidate...

never at any time did I feel physically threatened in any way shape or form....I took his message as it was intended . It was my partners way of hammering home a point with me .
Obviously with some people it would not have gone over so well but then again he said it to ME and his choice of words did not offend ME . If he had said "try and stay in your primary because I see you eyes drifting" I may have understood him but I may have forgotten that in a few days...I will never forget what he said because of his choice of words .
The fact that someone drops an F bomb does not make them a poor communicator . Sometimes it is a very good way of getting your point across but you have to know your audience .
I am an atheiest but if I ever happened to be talking in a church I would not curse out of respect to that audience but if I was in a business meeting I would not hesitate (and nor have I) to use one of Carlins words to hammer home a point .
just my thoughts which sometimes don't add up to much....
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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 11:20am
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I would like to rescind my last post

Evidently Rut and I are saying a lot of the same things and now I am REALLY REALLY REALLY scared . I have NEVER agreed with Rut on anything and I really don't think it's fair to start now
I need a 3 brown pop lunch to calm me down and I don't even really drink !
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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 11:27am
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by JRutledge

It might have been judgmental to call you an "internet official," but in most of our contact with each other, that is exactly what you sound like.


Yes, it was judgemental. And presumptive. I'm not going to list how many times I've been to state or how many state championships I've worked. What purpose would that serve? Not even sure what an "internet official" is.


For someone that has no idea the respect I get as an official or a human being, you have some balls telling me what decency is.


I didn't try to define decency. For the last time.... it takes more communication skills and intelligence to get a point across and be helpful to an official without using the F-bomb. People with good communication skills understand that point. I'm in a mentoring position in my assoc and have had many officials thank me for giving them things to work on in an encouraging and helpful style. Then they tell me about some of the jackasses (their words, not mine) who make them feel like little kids being berated by their fathers. They tell me it goes in one ear and out the other when they get that kind of input. For the most part, officials are adults. Any reason not to treat them like adults? I suppose only if you aren't a good enough communicator to get your point across in a positive way.


Especially when you have shown none here when issues that I feel are important are expressed.


I've agreed with you on many issues. I've disagreed with you on many others. So sorry if your little feelers got hurt when I didn't give you enough props on some of your manifestos.


All you do is come around and tell people what offends you and how bad of a person they are. So what goes around comes around.


Like I said in my previous post, I didn't say this person was a bad individual. From their actions described, they just apparently have trouble communicating and are forced to swear and threaten to get their point across.


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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 11:55am
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Re: I would like to rescind my last post

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Evidently Rut and I are saying a lot of the same things and now I am REALLY REALLY REALLY scared . I have NEVER agreed with Rut on anything and I really don't think it's fair to start now
I need a 3 brown pop lunch to calm me down and I don't even really drink !
Read very many of Rut's posts and you will become a MAJOR drinker...just ask Jurassic - he's had to sign many of us up for his on-line AOA meetings (that's Alcoholic Officials Anonymous)...some of those posts are pretty hard to read too!
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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 12:10pm
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Read very many of Rut's posts and you will become a MAJOR drinker...just ask Jurassic - he's had to sign many of us up for his on-line AOA meetings (that's Alcoholic Officials Anonymous)...some of those posts are pretty hard to read too! [/B][/QUOTE]Here's Rocky at the latest AOA meeting....

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Old Thu Apr 21, 2005, 12:18pm
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Read very many of Rut's posts and you will become a MAJOR drinker...just ask Jurassic - he's had to sign many of us up for his on-line AOA meetings (that's Alcoholic Officials Anonymous)...some of those posts are pretty hard to read too! [/B]
Here's Rocky at the latest AOA meeting....

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