Six on the floor...count the basket?

[theboys]

17U AAU game - hotly contested, semi-final of national qualifier

Black ready to inbound. As they bring in the ball, bench and crowd erupts with screams of "six men on the floor". Chaos ensues. Black races up the floor, six-on-five, makes a basket. Play stops. Sixth player runs off the floor. Officials see what's transpired, call a tech on black. White coach asks if basket counts. Official tells the coach, since the basket was scored before the officials noticed the problem, the basket counted. White coach sends three or four benchwarmers on the floor, and asks the official if he noticed that. Coach invited to sit the rest of the game.

I suspect the official was correct in his interpretation. Just wanted to get your thoughts.

Might have been funny if it hadn't happened to us.

[Back In The Saddle]

I know of no rule that would allow you to do anything different. You could argue that the white coach should have been aware and brought it to your attention sooner, which would have given him the maximum advantage in the situation.

After the coach's idiotic response, you have a double T, don't you? So there are no T foul shots and you go to the arrow? If so, the coach has just given up the only redress he's going to get in the situation. Not smart.

[BktBallRef]

Count the basket.

[TriggerMN]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle
I know of no rule that would allow you to do anything different. You could argue that the white coach should have been aware and brought it to your attention sooner, which would have given him the maximum advantage in the situation.

After the coach's idiotic response, you have a double T, don't you? So there are no T foul shots and you go to the arrow? If so, the coach has just given up the only redress he's going to get in the situation. Not smart.

The technicals did not occur at the same time. BktBallRef is right. Count the basket. Then assess the T to black, by giving white two free throws. Then assess the T to white, giving black two free throws.

From there, Fed rules give the ball to black at midcourt across from the table. NCAA rules give the ball to white at POI.

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by theboys
17U AAU game - hotly contested, semi-final of national qualifier

Black ready to inbound. As they bring in the ball, bench and crowd erupts with screams of "six men on the floor". Chaos ensues. Black races up the floor, six-on-five, makes a basket. Play stops. Sixth player runs off the floor. Officials see what's transpired, call a tech on black. White coach asks if basket counts. Official tells the coach, since the basket was scored before the officials noticed the problem, the basket counted. White coach sends three or four benchwarmers on the floor, and asks the official if he noticed that. Coach invited to sit the rest of the game.

My 2 cents: this is typical AAU coach behavior. If he would have just kept his mouth shut he would have traded 2 points for 2 FTs and the ball with an opportunity for 2 or 3 more points. But he couldn't resist the urge to act like an @ss, even during this "hotly contested, semi-final of national qualifier" so he ended up trading FTs & losing the ball to his opponent. And he should count himself lucky, if I was working that game each of those benchwarmers would have earned a T for coming on unbeckoned.

Brilliant coaching, eh?