Should have been a T!

[TriggerMN]

NCAA women's game today between Rutgers and Ohio State. After a made basket by OSU, Rutgers A1 is OOB and passes to A2, who is also OOB. OSU player B1 reaches over the endline and knocks the ball away while in flight.

Officials get together, discuss, and award Rutgers a spot throw-in.

Bwah???

[rainmaker]

Originally posted by TriggerMN
NCAA women's game today between Rutgers and Ohio State. After a made basket by OSU, Rutgers A1 is OOB and passes to A2, who is also OOB. OSU player B1 reaches over the endline and knocks the ball away while in flight.

Officials get together, discuss, and award Rutgers a spot throw-in.

Bwah???

Trigger, are you working from Fed rules? Who can give us the NCAA rule?

[Bart Tyson]

As you state the play, it is a T. My guess is the officials rule the ball to be on the inbound side of the line when it was touched.

[TriggerMN]

Yikes. It wasn't even close. Then, the baseline official, who blew the whistle, looked befuddled, and ran out to the C for help.

[Bart Tyson]

Well, you won't see the baseline official in the next round.

[JRutledge]

Originally posted by rainmaker


Trigger, are you working from Fed rules? Who can give us the NCAA rule?

The rule is exactly the same at the college level (either side).

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by JRutledge

The rule is exactly the same at the college level (either side).

For the purpose of this specific play the rule is the same in NFHS and NCAA play, but there is a difference in the more general case.

In the NFHS the defender can break the plane once the ball is released by the thrower on the attempted throw-in pass.

In the NCAA the restrictions on the defender don't end until the ball breaks the OOB boundary plane.

Since this was a pass on the OOB side of the boundary from A1 to A2 after a made goal and NOT a throw-in pass, the difference in the two rule sets doesn't matter here. As described the call should have been a T in either a Fed or NCAA game.

[Daryl H. Long]

I agree. A T should have been called.

A few seconds after that play Rutgers had a spot throw-in on baseline at same spot but this time it seemed to me they faked passing the ball along the baseline. At the extreme left of my TV screen the Rutgers girl on the court ran toward the baseline and an Ohio State player followed. The OSU player went all the way to the baseline as if the Rutgers girl had stepped OB. Unfortunately, the Rutgers player disappeared from the screen (no HD widesccreen in this house) so I do not know if she went OB or not to fake the same play as earlier. If so: Rutgers T for leaving court unautorized.

Anyone else see this?

[Nevadaref]

Originally posted by Daryl H. Long
I agree. A T should have been called.

A few seconds after that play Rutgers had a spot throw-in on baseline at same spot but this time it seemed to me they faked passing the ball along the baseline. At the extreme left of my TV screen the Rutgers girl on the court ran toward the baseline and an Ohio State player followed. The OSU player went all the way to the baseline as if the Rutgers girl had stepped OB. Unfortunately, the Rutgers player disappeared from the screen (no HD widesccreen in this house) so I do not know if she went OB or not to fake the same play as earlier. If so: Rutgers T for leaving court unautorized.

Anyone else see this?

And now we get to debate whether that is a T or a violation for a teammate being OOB during a designated spot throw-in.

Have fun...

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by Nevadaref

And now we get to debate whether that is a T or a violation for a teammate being OOB during a designated spot throw-in.

Have fun...

In Fed I'm going with the violation. But I looked in the NCAA book and didn't see a restriction on teammates being oob during a spot throw-in. Is it there and I just missed it? But didn't NCAA change going oob under your own volition to be just a violation this year?

[Dan_ref]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle

In Fed I'm going with the violation. But I looked in the NCAA book and didn't see a restriction on teammates being oob during a spot throw-in. Is it there and I just missed it? But didn't NCAA change going oob under your own volition to be just a violation this year?

9-5-2

[Daryl H. Long]

To all:

NCAA: Indirect technical foul

See pages BR 139-140 of NCAA Rule book.
NCAA Rule 10-3-16.
NCAA Rule 10-3-20 and A.R. 8