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Former coach and regular pick-up player. Had a good debate today during our lunch-time run. I'm sure this is a question you guys know the answer to right off the top of your head.
Player makes a definite attempt at a shot (no debate about that). Ball hits nothing and bounces on other side of rim. Player who shot the ball hustles and is the first player to it. Is that a pass-to-self violation? Or is it play on? Thanks, Tim 
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 03:43pm
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Play on. There's no rule in the book that mentions "pass to self" or "self pass." Once the player shoots, player control has ended and he may rebound with everyone else; even if it's an airball. If he gets the rebound, he may now dribble again, if he so desires.
The NBA, however, is an exception to this. A player may not retrieve his own airball in the NBA.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 03:45pm
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In Federation (high school) rules, shooting the ball at the basket (called a "Try") allows you to go and get the ball if you miss, even if you have previously dribbled. There is no requirement to hit the rim. It is up to the official to judge whether the player was shooting or not. If the official deems the player was not shooting then you could have a travel (if the ball does not hit the floor) or a double dribble (if the ball does hit the floor but the player had already dribbled.)
In the NBA you must hit the rim. Not sure about NCAA.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 03:47pm
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Thanks... More
What if the shot was not so clear-cut? Is it then a judgement call by official? Meaning: if official deems it a legitimate shot attempt then it's a free ball for all including shooter? But if official deems it an attempt to get out of trouble or the like, then it's a traveling(?) violation? Is that right?
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 03:50pm
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If the official judges that the player did not shoot but merely passed the ball then you could have:
1. Travelling if said player catches the ball before it touches the floor. 2. Double dribble if said player retrives the ball after it touches the floor if the player had already used his dribble. When the player threw the ball and it hit the floor, this constituted the start of a dribble.
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 03:55pm
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 03:56pm
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 04:02pm
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What's the worst game you ever worked? How much would it cost us to have you do a game ten times worse than that? Trust me, it's not pretty. The last thing we really need is an objective third party watching these games. On our own, we're able to selectively delude ourselves that the extra 40 pounds and 20 years haven't affected our games.`
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 04:04pm
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 04:08pm
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Fri Mar 18, 2005, 05:05pm
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