good spin move or palming

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Originally posted by BktBallRef
That just simply means that the force of the spin caused the ball to come to rest in the player's hand. It's still palming.

Then my confusion is what exactly "come to rest in his hand" means?

if it means no relative movement between the hand and the ball, then even a perfect downward dribble can be considered "no relative movement" if the dribbler keeps his hand on the top of the ball when pushing it.

on the other hand, if that phrase means "stop moving at a surface facing upward", then as long as dribbler's hand remains downward, there is no palming. one can argue that in that spin move the dribbler keeps his hand on the top of the ball (in the same time, on the side of the ball also), so the ball can not "come to rest" in his hand because the lack of vertical support.

Any insights to clarify my confusion? Thanks